Re: M8 question...
- From: Mark Bohrer <lurchl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:14:33 -0700
Ditto what Jim said - one of the worst times of my life was when HP
came back with a problem the test program didn't screen for in the
first 100BASE-TX Ethernet transceiver. (It was designed and released
by the group I managed at the time.) Thankfully, we fixed the test
program and the part before the other big customer, Cisco,
experienced the problem. I think we had to recall and replace a bunch
of units we'd shipped to customers to be sure.
If you want relatively trouble-free reliability, do as Jim suggests -
stay away from the bleeding edge of any new product or technology.
But sometimes there's nothing else available, and you have to be the
Guinea pig.
And yes, thanks for your dedicated beta-testing!
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At 03:39 PM 5/26/2007, you wrote:
I had some images that failed to record. And there was this light
that blinked at me.
When I processed the film, the images were missing, and I discovered
that the blinking lights were telling me that the lens cap was on... (M6)
;-)
Sorry Steve... I couldn't resist. :-(
I have to give credit to all of you folks that bought M8's right out
of the chute. It is reminiscent of the R8 initial release problems.
They were manifest! But the R8 persisted, and then the R9. I'm old
enough to have been burned way too many times by first-of's. I never
buy first-of anything, if I can help it. But I'm truly glad that
some folks do, you, Sonny, Jeffrey, etc, as this will move the
engineering along to the point that the system becomes stable.
During my entire engineering life, I have designed computer based
things for industry and sometimes consumers. NEVER EVER has the
first release been without problems. It just cannot be done. There
are trillions of combinations of signals that have to coordinate
exactly correctly for the system to be glitch free. Testing can not
solve this. It has to be in the hands of 'REAL' customers/users.
Remember the Hubble when they first put it up? Remember Apollo 13?
Remember the repeated Mars rover bounce & crash disasters?
In house testing will uncover only a percentage of impending
problems. Real use by real people with uncover most of the remaining
problems. Most. Not all.
So we all out here, thank you all over there - you all who have
signed-up for the M8 testing program. Leica OWES you all a debt of
gratitude as do those of us who will, someday, buy an M8.
Sincerely,
Jim
At 12:43 PM 5/26/2007 -0700, you wrote:
M8 problem... I hope you can help...
after months of using my M8 without any problem... I went to shoot
today and it fails to record an image... just the red blinking light
on the lower right back.
I can turn off the light only by removing the battery...and
reinserting it...
firmware 1.102... reinstalled... same result...
otherwise the program... and the ability to format the card...etc
seems OK...
I tried a variety of cards that I have used successfully in the past...
no image...just blinking light...
your advice/thoughts please?
thanks, Steve
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When I processed the film, the images were missing, and I discovered that the blinking lights were telling me that the lens cap was on... (M6)
;-) Sorry Steve... I couldn't resist. :-(I have to give credit to all of you folks that bought M8's right out of the chute. It is reminiscent of the R8 initial release problems. They were manifest! But the R8 persisted, and then the R9. I'm old enough to have been burned way too many times by first-of's. I never buy first-of anything, if I can help it. But I'm truly glad that some folks do, you, Sonny, Jeffrey, etc, as this will move the engineering along to the point that the system becomes stable.
During my entire engineering life, I have designed computer based things for industry and sometimes consumers. NEVER EVER has the first release been without problems. It just cannot be done. There are trillions of combinations of signals that have to coordinate exactly correctly for the system to be glitch free. Testing can not solve this. It has to be in the hands of 'REAL' customers/users. Remember the Hubble when they first put it up? Remember Apollo 13? Remember the repeated Mars rover bounce & crash disasters?
In house testing will uncover only a percentage of impending problems. Real use by real people with uncover most of the remaining problems. Most. Not all.
So we all out here, thank you all over there - you all who have signed-up for the M8 testing program. Leica OWES you all a debt of gratitude as do those of us who will, someday, buy an M8.
Sincerely, Jim At 12:43 PM 5/26/2007 -0700, you wrote:
M8 problem... I hope you can help... after months of using my M8 without any problem... I went to shoot today and it fails to record an image... just the red blinking light on the lower right back. I can turn off the light only by removing the battery...and reinserting it... firmware 1.102... reinstalled... same result... otherwise the program... and the ability to format the card...etc seems OK... I tried a variety of cards that I have used successfully in the past... no image...just blinking light... your advice/thoughts please? thanks, Steve
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