Re: Leica - starter camera

Phil,

I second those who have recommended an M6. It came in a few variations:

- the original, starting 1984, was non-TTL and had 0.72 viewfinder magnification
- in the late 1990s, models with 0.58 and 0.85 (the latter sometimes called HM for High Magnification) appeared, to accomodate those who shot mostly with wide lenses (28mm/35mm) or long ones (90mm/135mm), respectively. The magnification is marked in very small letters on the grey strip under the viewfinder window. The 0.85 lacks framelines for the 28mm lens.
- also in the late 1990s, the TTL models appeared. The easiest way to tell them apart is a slightly different script type and a larger shutter speed dial.

Any of these will serve you well. I have recently converted to mainly digital shooting, but the one Leica M I kept is a 0.85 non-TTL M6.

More recent models include the M7 which features an electronic shutter and aperture priority, and the MP which is basically an M6 but with a higher price and stupid rewind crank a la the 1960s. I would stay away from those unless someone offers you one at a knock-down price.

The older models (M3, M4) are OK too, but aside from the fiddlier loading system, they lack the light meter, and, being much older than an M6, are more likely to need a CLA. Especially with an M3, you would not be saving very much, if anything at all, compared to a recent M6.

And finally, any Leica M lens will fit any Leica M camera (with some minor exceptions for wide angles on the M5, but I would not recommend that one in any event).

Nathan

Phil McOrmond wrote:

So the M6 is easier to load and is a relatively new model.. The other difference is TTL vs non-TTL. I assume the later models have the TTL. Is there any sub-model designation for the TTL.
I have read about the older models now and the loading does seem like a bit more trouble but no worse than loading a medium format camera as far as I can see. I have an old Kodak Autographic from around WW1 that uses a similar loading system to the Leica. Unforunately 127 film is not too common although I do have some.
I think I could put up with either system of loading. Is there a differnce in the lenses or are thay interchangeable across the model range? The lens designations are relatively complex. How many camera companies actually give their lenses names and not just let them be known by their f-stop and focal length?
This is starting to get more nteresting as I go along but it sounds like an M6 might be the one. Are there models to avoid other than due to rarity/expense? I am not sure I would want to be regularly using anything costing more than a couple of thousand outside of the house YMMV.
Thanks for the feedback so far.
Phil
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffery Smith" <jls@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: Leica - starter camera


There is something intangible that I like better about the non-TTL. Is
it a tiny bit less tall?

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com



-----Original Message-----
From: leica-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:leica-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rei Shinozuka
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:58 PM
To: leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Leica - starter camera

i think the m6 in any of its guises is a good camera, and in the past
couple of years, prices have drifted into the $1,250 to $1,500 range.
the m6 is relatively new (it was made for about 20 years starting
from 1984), has built-in metering, and there are many on the used
market.
i personally like the proportions and handling of the m6 classic, but
the
m6 TTL is also a nice camera.




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