Re: [Leica] Paris, again...


On Jun 29, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Ted Grant wrote:


Steve Barbour showed and asked:

Subject: [LRflex] Re: Paris, again...

On Jun 28, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Ted Grant wrote:


STEVE SAID:



I wanted to capture the vertical lines of the bridge, the pont des

arts...leading the eye up river, toward the man and the woman, toward
Paris...(and also the sky was so drab)<<<


Sorry mate absolutely no excuse. period!<<<<<<<


Ted offered bluntly:
Straighten it up, as you are a far better photographer than the presented
"tilted" image. And I don't give a flying hoop what others may say. It's either absolutely right or it isn't! And in this case it isn't absolutely 
right! Fix it!

Steve asked:


just maybe we're talking about two different things Ted,


in any case I'm just not, I am not following you my friend...fix what
please? <<<

Good morning Steve,
First things first: The view, the moment, the angle are right on the button. It doesn't get much better than it is! Your logic for taking the picture isn't what I'm trying to point out because that part is as good as it gets. 
And your reason for making the shot is right on the mark;


I wanted to capture the vertical lines of the bridge, the pont des

arts...leading the eye up river, toward the man and the woman, toward
Paris...(and also the sky was so drab)<<<

Ted returned with:


Sorry mate absolutely no excuse. period!<<
Now I see why the confusion, sorry, bad writing explanation on my part. :-( 
Sometimes much easier face to face and quicker than writing.
As you pointed out, the sky was drab so I understand your slight tilt down to cut some of the sky in the viewfinder creating the distortion in the buildings right and left sides of the frame. This has nothing to do with the immediate content of man-woman nor moment and positive logic for shooting 
the photo.

It's simply "technical camera handling" and fixing it in the darkroom.

This can be corrected by slightly tilting the paper easel upward or on
screen software to square the buildings to vertically correct lines before 
printing. In this case it's so slight it's easily straightened without
losing the feel of the moment in the photograph. Or missing it when editing. 

The other option in this case with the drab sky . "Keep the camera
absolutely straight, crop the sky later when making a print or onscreen 
image.
I may sound like an old grouch about what some see as a "nothing hardly noticeable vertical line" in holding the camera straight. But trust me I learned little things like this from some of most hard assed photo editors you could ever shoot for and they made me become a better photographer, as 
it's the simple things that can slip by when editing our own work.
And certainly none of you have ever had Sandy Carter as a photo editor!!! Because she can almost bring you to tears when she makes a point about the tiny things I did wrong. Or I missed by not scanning the internal viewfinder edges for little things sticking into the frame. OR.. Not holding the camera straight. She's awesome when I've made some simple error, savage sometimes. On occasion with a smile, but the tone of voice rattles yer inner bones!!
Her response . "What? You don't want to be the best you can be?" OR, "Is 
this one of your all time best photographs illustrating your photo
reputation?" My response? "OK take it out." But we did have some great 
battles. I always lost! :-)
The worst part with her or any excellent photo editor is, when they point out one has missed a tiny little thing and taken the edge off what would be the perfect image! I wont go into the day while on a shoot I didn't use a 
spot meter after she pointed it out! Then standing at the light table
editing later!
Steve, hopefully I've presented this correctly this time. If not let me know 
and I'll phone you later today toward supper time and we can talk.


thank you very much Ted... I understand...

I'm going back to the original file...


I will work on it...


Steve





ted






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