RE: #401
- From: Mark <lurchl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leica@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:50:47 -0800
Ted, your comments reminded me of how I started
with sports. Nowhere near your Olympic level, but a similar experience.
When I first photographed mountain bike races in
the early 1990s, I began with beginner and sport
class events close to me in the Santa Clara
Valley. Then I went to Mammoth Mountain
(California) for the pros in 1995. My first
efforts were just OK. As I improved, I started
getting press passes to NORBA National
Championship Series events. A highlight was
photographing Ned Overend the last year he
competed. He was ranked second nationally in
cross-country in 1996, racing guys half his age - and winning.
As time went on, there were more and more
photographers, and some wouldn't ask if they were
in your way - they'd just jam into your sight
line so THEY could get the shot. So I learned to
work around increasingly crowded courses,
especially dual-slalom where I stayed just out of
the way but close enough for intimate pictures
(sometimes being crazy-close weeds out other
photographers), and downhill events where natural
obstacles plus the course determine where you shoot.
Can't say I've ever gotten a spot at
Olympic-level events. But what I learned shooting
races has helped with wildlife. You can't ask 'em
to do it again... and picking placements and
groupings on the fly is very necessary. You've
got to be ready for unusual behavior when it
appears. Previsualizing a composition helps.
Knowing the line a racer's likely to pick, or
likely feeding behavior of your wild subject helps too.
*****************************
Graham, I like the color 'postcard' version
better than the black and white. I'd love to see
a hi-res print of this one - bet it's stunning.
Mark Bohrer
Wildlife Photography on the Urban Edge
www.mountain-and-desert.com
At 01:54 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote:
Subject:#401
geebee wrote:
>Colour version of previously posted M6 b&w shot.
>>Leica Minilux : Agfa Vista 200
>>http://www.geebeephoto.com/2007/07401.htm<<
Hi Graham,
Pure simplicity at it?s best! Beautiful! J
If we consider the bulk of your photography
comes from ?your own back yard,? you constantly
prove the old whine by photographers is pure
nonsense! ?I?d be much better if I were in (name
your own country) and I?d be a smashing great
photographer!? You always prove otherwise!
If one can?t cut the mustard in your own town,
city, country you sure as hell aren?t going to do it in another country.
It?s much like people when looking at my work
from the Olympics who say? ?Well these are good
because it?s at the Olympics! That?s why your pictures are interesting!?
Followed by, ?If I could go to the Olympics I?d
shoot great stuff because there?s so many super
athletes to photograph!? WRONG!!!!!!!!
Dumb ass photographers don?t understand you have
to shoot great photos at the local high school
track meet first? then maybe the quality of what
you produce there will get you a spot to cover the Olympics!
I mean if you haven?t been shoulder to shoulder
trying to shoot something different than the
other 300 sports photogs crammed around you like
sardines in a can, then you have absolutely no
idea what the pressures are to succeed at the Olympics!
The high school track meet is a piece of cake
because you could be the only photog in sight!
And the whole place is yours without any ?Photo
positions? designated where you have to shoot
from whether the light, angle or otherwise is good, bad or ugly!?
So what you do Graham is, you teach us day after
day it?s quite possible to find very interesting
photographs in our own areas if we just go out and look for them.
Thanks again for another great teaching photograph!
ted
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Subject:#401 geebee wrote: >Colour version of previously posted M6 b&w shot. >>Leica Minilux : Agfa Vista 200 >>http://www.geebeephoto.com/2007/07401.htm<< Hi Graham, Pure simplicity at it?s best! Beautiful! JIf we consider the bulk of your photography comes from ?your own back yard,? you constantly prove the old whine by photographers is pure nonsense! ?I?d be much better if I were in (name your own country) and I?d be a smashing great photographer!? You always prove otherwise!
If one can?t cut the mustard in your own town, city, country you sure as hell aren?t going to do it in another country.
It?s much like people when looking at my work from the Olympics who say? ?Well these are good because it?s at the Olympics! That?s why your pictures are interesting!? Followed by, ?If I could go to the Olympics I?d shoot great stuff because there?s so many super athletes to photograph!? WRONG!!!!!!!!
Dumb ass photographers don?t understand you have to shoot great photos at the local high school track meet first? then maybe the quality of what you produce there will get you a spot to cover the Olympics!
I mean if you haven?t been shoulder to shoulder trying to shoot something different than the other 300 sports photogs crammed around you like sardines in a can, then you have absolutely no idea what the pressures are to succeed at the Olympics!
The high school track meet is a piece of cake because you could be the only photog in sight! And the whole place is yours without any ?Photo positions? designated where you have to shoot from whether the light, angle or otherwise is good, bad or ugly!?
So what you do Graham is, you teach us day after day it?s quite possible to find very interesting photographs in our own areas if we just go out and look for them.
Thanks again for another great teaching photograph! ted
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