One more vote for C++. I agree with Silas that the idea of 16 years of support is better than a trial run with only one year of experimentation. Raymond --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Cyliss Sehguh <cyliss13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Cyliss Sehguh <cyliss13@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Pre-Build Season Code Goals To: lcec.code@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:58 PM we'll talk in step tomorrow. yes i agree its good to look at old code... but i think it would be more efficient to look at what FIRST provides rather than what Ben has written... considering what it would take to get the code. My vote is C++ because there has already been a year of testing on the new control system with C++ and if I've learned anything about FIRST and code, is that they don't test their stuff too throughly before they release it to the teams. There were a lot of problems last year, both code and mechanically based, which will not be repeated this year because it has not been run through. Java will most probably work perfectly or as well as C++, no doubt. I personally would love it if the code were Java so that I could help a bit. But from my two years with FIRST, it doesn't wise for a team as young as ours with all new coders to trying something with little to no community resources. there's 16 years for C++ and one year on the new control system, and those resources will be very helpful. but i'm just one vote. and i dont really know much code. meh. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Justin Collier <justinjncr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: My vote is Java as well. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Luke Cycon <lcycon.lcec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 18:41 -0800, Cyliss Sehguh wrote: > you guys try whatever you like AFTER you start writing some code from > scratch. Don't get all bent outa shape ;) haha Its really standard practice to look at old code just to get a feel for the API. Blindly programming with a new API falls very short of a good idea. Last thing we want is an inadvertent wire fail caused solely by lack of experience with the APIs haha At any rate, I think it would be beneficial to have Ben's old code (Not so much if we decide to go with Java), just to see contextual examples of function calls. Last thing: We are approaching the point where we need a final decision of what language we will be using. I cast my vote as Java > I talked to Zim and I think thursday after school will work fine. Will > verify tomorrow in STEP. Yay... My day with the most homework... Ah well. Just let me know if its a go. -- Luke Cycon <lcycon.lcec@xxxxxxxxx> Anything not nailed down is mine. Anything I can pry loose is not nailed down. At any time, at any place, our snipers can drop you. Have a nice day.