[LandXML] Re: LandXML - Bentley/In Roads to Land Desktop 2006

Here is the file.  How would you recommend a simple (and humble) user like
myself to get more into LandXML?  I want to know why there is a LandXML vs
XML (I think I know the answer, but just want to see it in print).  I can
see the potential for this format but seem limited by the current software,
I just want to know if there is a way to overcome that!

 

Thanks for your help and input!

 

By the way, this file should contain a surface from an aerial mapping
company we contracted.  Surfaces, points, alignments etc probably aren't
treated any different at the import level I would assume?  It was apparently
done in Bentley inroads 2004.  It appears the LandXML import routine goes
thru its first step of preparing the data for import just fine (if not a
little slow).  After that it tells me what is available to import and its
already selected to import all.  After selecting that import button a dialog
box comes up telling me that surface "Default" contains 78211 points.
Basically telling me that it would be quicker or even possible to import
only the surface coordinates rather than their triangulation scheme.  Of
course I want to maintain triangulation, in my mind that is what I am using
XML for.  If I wanted the points I would ask for an ascii file.  In this
case I want the surface because we paid good money for its generation.  This
is really where it seems to fall down here.  I don't want the quick import,
I don't have 3D breaklines, and wouldn't feel comfortable with using
someones 3D breaklines anyhow!  If I re-create someones work using all their
raw data (points, breaklines, boundaries, etc.) 

 

I just got off the phone with Mike Cavanaugh (spelling??), he helped set me
straight on a few points.  But I still can't import the file.  Thanks very
much for your help!

 

Sean Twomey

Dibble & Associates

Survey Technician, LSIT

2633 E Indian School Rd Suite 401

Phoenix, AZ  85032

Phone 602.957.1155  Mobile 602.540.7301

Fax 602.957.2838

Dibble <http://www.dibblecorp.com/>  & Associates Inc.

 

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From: landxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:landxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nathan Crews
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:38 AM
To: stwomey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; landxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [LandXML] Re: LandXML - Bentley/In Roads to Land Desktop 2006

 

There is a growing number of reports that Bentley files are not importing
well with other applications, not just Autodesk.

 

The latest sample files that Bentley submitted do validate and work well, so
there may be a new software revision that is causing the problem.

 

If you can zip the LandXML file and send it too me I will check it out and
be able to give you some detail on what the specific problem is.

 

Regards,

 

Nathan Crews

www.landxml.org

 

 

-----Original Message----- 
From: landxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Sean Twomey 
Sent: Mon 12/12/2005 9:20 AM 
To: landxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Cc: 
Subject: [LandXML] LandXML - Bentley/In Roads to Land Desktop 2006

Hi, I am trying to figure out how to import an XML file into Land Desktop
2006 (all patches).  It's a real struggle on the user level to actually get
XML to work properly.  It seems like a pretty straight forward concept but I
can not get it to work properly from a Bentley product to Land Desktop.  As
I understand it, Land Desktop is pretty much the instigators of the LandXML
format.  I know XML is a loose set of data coding/formatting and that
LandXML is trying to tighten this up with a set of standards.  Is this an
issue between Bentley and AutoDesk?  I emailed a Bentley official once and
he seemed to indicate that Bentley's thoughts on XML was that it is a way to
get raw data to another computer/cad platform as opposed to a finished
surface or complete alignment etc...  Does this ring true?

If anyone has any help on this I would appreciate it, or at least some sort
of steer in the correct direction!  To recap I just want help in importing
an XML file (a 26 mb file) purportedly from Bentley Inroads into Land
Desktop 2006 format.

Thanks!

Sean Twomey
Dibble & Associates
Survey Technician, LSIT
2633 E Indian School Rd Suite 401
Phoenix, AZ  85032
Phone 602.957.1155  Mobile 602.540.7301
Fax 602.957.2838
Dibble & Associates Inc.



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