[klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities

I hear ya. I don't hate or even dislike the sounds. In fact, I like the NEW 
synth and sample models for the reasons Dave Bradley dislikes them. I prefer 
the sampled sound of a real instrument rather than the sound of an instrument 
being imitated (which is what Moogs and mellotrons attempted to do). Just my 
own preference.

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> From: deanjasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:16:02 -0700
> 
> Jaimie, maybe all I'm trying to say is that at that point in time (60s-70s) 
> the music being written was more true to classical and jazz roots formed 
> into rock. It just so happened to be the time when synthesizers were trying 
> to mimmick brass and wind instruments. Personally I love those old keyboard 
> tones but they may not be for everyone. Creative chord structure is the key 
> no matter how "dated" it sounds. Klaatu certainly had that!
> Dean
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jaimie Vernon" <bullseyecanada@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:44 AM
> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities
> 
> 
> > Wow...how absolutely judgmental.
> >
> > The '60s and '70s were great, admittedly. But to say it's the be all and 
> > end all? Sorry, man....most of my musical creativity came IN the '80s when 
> > I was part of the '80s musical movement as an artist. Give me a DX7 or a 
> > JUNO 108 or an EMU and leave those farting old farfisas and moogs where 
> > they belong....in the pawn shops....collecting dust.
> >
> > Personally, I'd rather listen to ANYTHING from post-WWII 1940s to early 
> > '50s. Pop music especially. It's honest, it's earnest and it had NO 
> > artistic agenda. It was there to feed the feet and the hearts of the 
> > people.
> >
> > Jaimie Vernon,
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> >
> >
> >> From: deanjasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities
> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:28:41 -0700
> >>
> >> I"m not a fan of the word "dated". Most of the best music came out of the
> >> 60s and 70s. Everyone knows that, even the young people. I'd give 
> >> anything
> >> to own a Moog or a mellotron today! I'd use them both in all of my stuff.
> >> What real musician wouldn't?
> >> Great topic guys....Dean
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Scott Teague" <Scott.Teague@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:56 AM
> >> Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities
> >>
> >>
> >> > See,
> >> > This is why one should NEVER try to give any explanation, however 
> >> > brief,
> >> > as to WHY it is that a particular piece of music (...artist, genre, 
> >> > etc.)
> >> > doesn't particularly appeal to oneself. You end up with people 
> >> > suggesting
> >> > you shouldn't feel that way, how you're not being fair to the artist, 
> >> > or
> >> > your mind is just too damn small and closed, or some such thing.
> >> >
> >> > I agree with Dwayne who said, " Stuff like the Beatles and Klaatu 
> >> > doesn't
> >> > date in my opinion. It's timeless.
> >> > And that is the sign of a great band."
> >> >
> >> > Excuse me while I go back to listening to my Lightnin' Hopkins, BB 
> >> > King,
> >> > SRV, Robin Trower, Rob Thomas, Blitzen Trapper, Sarah Watkins, Allman
> >> > brothers,  etc.  Actually, I need to get to work.
> >> >
> >> > .  .  ... Scott Teague . . ¶|;-D
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> >> > Behalf
> >> > Of Jaimie Vernon
> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:19 PM
> >> > To: klaatumail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [klaatumail] Re: New Dee Long solo rarities
> >> >
> >> > At Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:55:45 Jens wrote:
> >> >> Looking at it objectively, or at least trying to; the term "dated", is
> >> >> used
> >> >> like a curse word, along with Prog, Rush etc. in your examples.
> >> >
> >> > You are correct. Because the people making the statements used 'dated' 
> >> > as
> >> > a derogatory term.
> >> >
> >> >>There is really no objective validity or argument in the statements.
> >> >
> >> > *I* was making an argument for objectivity, but the people putting the
> >> > music down were NOT. This thread began when someone here said that
> >> > McManus had a 'dated' sound. I took that as a negative attitude....and
> >> > made mention that if THAT was the case, they wouldn't like Dee's demos
> >> > for the same reason.
> >> >
> >> >> I might counter by calling everything released within the last year
> >> >> "contemporary" - and add a sneer to my voice :-)
> >> >
> >> > Yes. As would a lot of people.
> >> >
> >> >> Or anything released in the last decade soooooo early 21st century.
> >> >
> >> > Indeed.
> >> >
> >> >> These statements aren't objective or valid either.
> >> >>
> >> >> Newest isn't always best, although Hollywood tends to think so as 
> >> >> they're
> >> >> remaking old films galore instead of coming up with original ideas, 
> >> >> and
> >> >> of
> >> >> course any piece of creative work will in some way or other contain 
> >> >> some
> >> >> references to the time period in which it was created.
> >> >>
> >> >> Would these persons you're referring to, diss a painting merely on the
> >> >> grounds that is dated and so either impressionism, cubism, or Dadaism?
> >> >
> >> > Yes. People do this all the time. And just because someone isn't being
> >> > objective, doesn't make their taste any less valid. HOW you like music 
> >> > is
> >> > as unique as music itself.
> >> >
> >> > And this is MY point in all these posts. You'd be surprised at how many
> >> > people do not judge music as art....only by the SOUND it makes. If it 
> >> > is
> >> > not cutting edge and made in the last year, it is of no interest to 
> >> > some
> >> > people. You'd be surprised to find out that singer-songwriter Neil 
> >> > Young
> >> > is one of them. Until he assembled his recent boxed set full of 
> >> > rarities,
> >> > outtakes, etc., at the request of his fans, he'd NEVER gone back to 
> >> > listen
> >> > to any of it because his policy is: record it, release it, move on....
> >> >
> >> > Klaatu fans come in two camps....those who wish EVERYTHING sounded like
> >> > the past (Beatles, ELO, Klaatu, et al)....and those who have a wider
> >> > palette and believe that music of all types -- new or old -- has a 
> >> > place
> >> > in the world.
> >> >
> >> > And, unfortunately, you're never going to change that.
> >> >
> >> > Jaimie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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