>This talk of maps makes me wonder, where do you get them and how do you >install them? you buy them at the shop, scan them on your scanner, put the files on your harddisk, import map file from image, go to the map tab of Kismac, set a point of known coordinates, set another point of known coordinates and off you go. You do need a map with North pointing up and South pointing down, East pointing right and West pointing left when on the screen. (using maps that have e.g. North-East line up with the top for more economical map use in 'classical urban areas' doesn't work). ard