[kismac] Re: Probescans differ on MacBook and MacBookPro
- From: themacuser <themacuser@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:09:30 +0930
On 13/10/2006, at 5:58 AM, Lars Scheithauer wrote:
good evening, everyone!
First post to the list! A friend and I just got kismac to run
passively on a MacBook Pro and a MacBook (non-Pro), thanks to the
latest SVN-release (and you guys of course). So we started poking
around and simultanously scanned from the same location to see
which antenna is better[1]. However, we saw another huge
difference: the MacBookPro saw someone probing our network, while
the MacBook did not show any probe. Both were running in passive-
mode and working, since the MacBook shows some normal networks, too.
We're having some trouble with the Atheros driver - it seems not to
report data packets properly. We're trying to work out what's going on.
So we compared our two cards via the System Profiler, and both were
the same[2][3], with one difference: The MacBook is from germany
while the MacBookPro is from the US - which is where the cards
differ. We have the same Kismac-versions (svn r203, compiled on the
MacBook, application copied over to the MacBookPro). So, since the
cards seem to be the same (according to the id), is there a huge
difference between an US-card and a european-card? Anyone with a
mac to scan passively and another box to send the needed probes,
who could test and confirm that?
Perhaps it is something with the cards. Although the only difference
that should be there is that the US card supports channels 1-11 and
the European card should support channels 1-13.
Another thing that bugs me: When the probe stopped, we tried to
verify our suspicion. So the MacBook was set to scan actively and
the MacBookPro passively. However, no probes showed up. Is this
after all just a glitch in the driver?
I'm not sure.
Last point: Our wirelessrouter is jumping between two channels
(which it shouldn't). We also experience some connectionproblems
from time to time. Is this something that happens due to
reflections and doublesignals through walls and other disturbances,
so that the frequency changes?
If the signal is strong enough, it can bleed over onto other nearby
channels. That's perfectly normal. When you're right next to a high
power AP, it can even happen up to 6-7 channels away.
As for connection problems occasionally - what brand of gear is it all?
-- Lars
_______________________________________________
[1] it's the MacBooks, in case you wonder.
[2] MacBookPro:
Drahtlose Karte: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x86)
Funktionsbereich der Karte: U.S.A.
Firmware-Version der Karte: 0.1.27
[3] MacBook:
Drahtlose Karte: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x86)
Funktionsbereich der Karte: Weltweit
Firmware-Version der Karte: 0.1.27
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On 13/10/2006, at 5:58 AM, Lars Scheithauer wrote:
good evening, everyone!
First post to the list! A friend and I just got kismac to run passively on a MacBook Pro and a MacBook (non-Pro), thanks to the latest SVN-release (and you guys of course). So we started poking around and simultanously scanned from the same location to see which antenna is better[1]. However, we saw another huge difference: the MacBookPro saw someone probing our network, while the MacBook did not show any probe. Both were running in passive- mode and working, since the MacBook shows some normal networks, too.
So we compared our two cards via the System Profiler, and both were the same[2][3], with one difference: The MacBook is from germany while the MacBookPro is from the US - which is where the cards differ. We have the same Kismac-versions (svn r203, compiled on the MacBook, application copied over to the MacBookPro). So, since the cards seem to be the same (according to the id), is there a huge difference between an US-card and a european-card? Anyone with a mac to scan passively and another box to send the needed probes, who could test and confirm that?
Another thing that bugs me: When the probe stopped, we tried to verify our suspicion. So the MacBook was set to scan actively and the MacBookPro passively. However, no probes showed up. Is this after all just a glitch in the driver?
I'm not sure.
-- Lars
_______________________________________________ [1] it's the MacBooks, in case you wonder. [2] MacBookPro: Drahtlose Karte: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x86) Funktionsbereich der Karte: U.S.A. Firmware-Version der Karte: 0.1.27 [3] MacBook: Drahtlose Karte: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x86) Funktionsbereich der Karte: Weltweit Firmware-Version der Karte: 0.1.27
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