[kismac] Re: Google Summer of Code

  • From: "Geoffrey A Kruse" <gkruse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: kismac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 13:15:34 -0700 (PDT)

Absolutely no reason whatsoever.  Just an "I'm sorry Dave"  "I can't do
that Dave"
:(

Geoff

> Did they give a reason?
>
> nmap is on there.  So is the OSVDB.  That proves they don't have a
> problem with security software.
>
> On 5/27/06, Geoffrey Kruse <gkruse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> We were turned down by google. :(
>>
>>
>> Geoff
>> On May 27, 2006, at 10:26 PM, Patrick Kelley wrote:
>>
>> > Whatever happened with our proposal to mentor a student for the Google
>> > summer of code?
>> >
>> > Did Google ever reply?
>> >
>> > --------------------
>> > Patrick Kelley
>> > 623.332.0290
>> > http://www.ASUrobot.com/
>> > Computer Systems Engineer
>> > Arizona State University
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/16/06, Geoffrey Kruse <gkruse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> I've put in a notice of interest to google.  They said they will
>> >> review our project and get back to us.
>> >>
>> >> Geoff
>> >> On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:27 PM, themacuser wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Sorry, I've missed all this (haven't been on the net for a few
>> >> > days, down at a holiday house).
>> >> >
>> >> > Sounds like fun. What I think:
>> >> > Idea 1: Good idea. Definitely do this.
>> >> > Idea 2: Interesting... but probably not entirely needed.
>> >> > Idea 3: Cool.
>> >> > Idea 4: NO WAY. Detect the default from the SSID/Channel/
>> >> > Encryption. Don't make it connect for the user.
>> >> > Idea 5: Interesting, but don't want to make it skript kiddie
>> >> heaven...
>> >> > Idea 6: Could be done...
>> >> > Idea 7: Hmmm. Bit too illegal. Why not just use ettercap?
>> >> > Idea 8: There are already programs to do this.
>> >> > Idea 9: This can sort-of already be done. Sort-of. Try the "beacon
>> >> > flooding" option. I'll work on making it actually usable. If you
>> >> > turn down the interval (with my advanced prefs) patch, it can be
>> >> done.
>> >> >
>> >> > interesting ideas though. Summer of Code sounds good.
>> >> >
>> >> > Getting money thrown around a project like this, there is the issue
>> >> > of who gets it though, and for what purpose... that could be
>> >> > interesting.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 17/04/2006, at 11:54 AM, Geoffrey Kruse wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> There is a patch on track for setting color based on crack
>> >> >> probability.   It would be pretty easy to adapt.  I do however
>> >> >> agree that kismac should not log in, leave that to the user.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Geoff
>> >> >> On Apr 16, 2006, at 8:16 PM, gmail wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Perhaps, although cruising around town with him, we saw a LOT of
>> >> >>> routers on the default channel/SSID/etc, but none of them we
>> >> >>> tried had the default password.  There were two it flagged a
>> >> >>> different color (yellow, if I recall), that I was able to log
>> >> >>> into perfectly on my powerbook.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I need to email him, my mind's all confused now.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -Adem
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Kevin Bringard wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I think it just flags them differently if it meets a certain
>> >> set of
>> >> >>>> "default" criteria, like, the BSSID is "linksys" and the
>> >> channel is
>> >> >>>> "6" and the IP range is 192.168.1.x.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> As far as I know (and I have not used Kismet in some time) it
>> >> >>>> doesn't
>> >> >>>> actually log into the router and let you know if its using a
>> >> >>>> default
>> >> >>>> password
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hope this helps..
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> -- Kevin
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 4/16/06, gmail <theholymacintosh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Huh.  I could have sworn that on my bud's linux setup, kismet
>> >> >>>>> listed routers
>> >> >>>>> with a full default setup showed up differently.  But now that
>> >> >>>>> I think about
>> >> >>>>> it, I have no idea how, since you're absolutely correct.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Barry Woods wrote:
>> >> >>>>> No.  Kismet isn't a cient manager, it just listens.  You can't
>> >> >>>>> connect while
>> >> >>>>> in rfmon.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On 4/16/06, gmail < theholymacintosh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Doesn't kismet already do this (idea #4)?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Barry Woods wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hahahahahahaha!   Okay, I just don't want anybody to get into
>> >> >>>>>> trouble.  :)
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 4/16/06, Patrick Kelley <opticrealm@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I said that some of the ideas were crazy.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I call it, "brain-storming."
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> In photography, sometimes you have to take a lot of pictures
>> >> >>>>>>> to get a
>> >> >>>>> few good ones.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> In brain-storming, you have to think up a lot of ieas to get
>> >> >>>>>>> a few good
>> >> >>>>> ones.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Anyways, if you implemented idea 6, then kismac would change
>> >> >>>>>>> your MAC
>> >> >>>>> address, making Idea 4 somewhat untraceable!  (untraceable = no
>> >> >>>>> prison
>> >> >>>>> time!!!)  (Just kidding...)
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On 4/16/06, Barry Woods < barry99705@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Uhh, I think I'd like to stay out of prison, thank you very
>> >> >>>>>>>> much.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On 4/15/06, Patrick Kelley < opticrealm@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Here are some Google Summer of Code Ideas.  They get
>> >> >>>>>>>>> crazier further
>> >> >>>>> down the list...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Idea 4) - If encryption was disabled, Kismac would
>> >> >>>>>>>>> automatically try
>> >> >>>>> to login to the wireless router using the manufacturers'
>> >> >>>>> default password.
>> >> >>>>> If it worked, a different color would be displayed in the map
>> >> >>>>> view.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 4/15/06, Geoffrey Kruse < gkruse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I'll look into it :)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Geoff
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Patrick Kelley wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Is the Kismac project planning to put in a proposal to be
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> a mentor
>> >> >>>>> for the Google Summer of Code 2006?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/soc/
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Patrick Kelley
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> 623.332.0290
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://web.mac.com/opticrealm/iWeb/
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Computer Systems Eng. (Undergrad.)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> --------------------
>> >> >>>>>>>> Patrick Kelley
>> >> >>>>>>>> 623.332.0290
>> >> >>>>>>>> http://web.mac.com/opticrealm/iWeb/
>> >> >>>>>>>> Computer Systems Eng. (Undergrad.)
>> >> >>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> --
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> --------------------
>> >> >>>>>>> Patrick Kelley
>> >> >>>>>>> 623.332.0290
>> >> >>>>>>> http://web.mac.com/opticrealm/iWeb/
>> >> >>>>>>> Computer Systems Eng. (Undergrad.)
>> >> >>>>>>> Arizona State University
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --------------------
> Patrick Kelley
> 623.332.0290
> http://www.ASUrobot.com/
> Computer Systems Engineer
> Arizona State University
>
>



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