[kismac] Re: Google Summer of Code

Did they give a reason?

nmap is on there.  So is the OSVDB.  That proves they don't have a
problem with security software.

On 5/27/06, Geoffrey Kruse <gkruse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
We were turned down by google. :(


Geoff
On May 27, 2006, at 10:26 PM, Patrick Kelley wrote:

> Whatever happened with our proposal to mentor a student for the Google
> summer of code?
>
> Did Google ever reply?
>
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> Patrick Kelley
> 623.332.0290
> http://www.ASUrobot.com/
> Computer Systems Engineer
> Arizona State University
>
>
>
> On 4/16/06, Geoffrey Kruse <gkruse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I've put in a notice of interest to google.  They said they will
>> review our project and get back to us.
>>
>> Geoff
>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:27 PM, themacuser wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry, I've missed all this (haven't been on the net for a few
>> > days, down at a holiday house).
>> >
>> > Sounds like fun. What I think:
>> > Idea 1: Good idea. Definitely do this.
>> > Idea 2: Interesting... but probably not entirely needed.
>> > Idea 3: Cool.
>> > Idea 4: NO WAY. Detect the default from the SSID/Channel/
>> > Encryption. Don't make it connect for the user.
>> > Idea 5: Interesting, but don't want to make it skript kiddie
>> heaven...
>> > Idea 6: Could be done...
>> > Idea 7: Hmmm. Bit too illegal. Why not just use ettercap?
>> > Idea 8: There are already programs to do this.
>> > Idea 9: This can sort-of already be done. Sort-of. Try the "beacon
>> > flooding" option. I'll work on making it actually usable. If you
>> > turn down the interval (with my advanced prefs) patch, it can be
>> done.
>> >
>> > interesting ideas though. Summer of Code sounds good.
>> >
>> > Getting money thrown around a project like this, there is the issue
>> > of who gets it though, and for what purpose... that could be
>> > interesting.
>> >
>> > On 17/04/2006, at 11:54 AM, Geoffrey Kruse wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is a patch on track for setting color based on crack
>> >> probability.   It would be pretty easy to adapt.  I do however
>> >> agree that kismac should not log in, leave that to the user.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Geoff
>> >> On Apr 16, 2006, at 8:16 PM, gmail wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Perhaps, although cruising around town with him, we saw a LOT of
>> >>> routers on the default channel/SSID/etc, but none of them we
>> >>> tried had the default password.  There were two it flagged a
>> >>> different color (yellow, if I recall), that I was able to log
>> >>> into perfectly on my powerbook.
>> >>>
>> >>> I need to email him, my mind's all confused now.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Adem
>> >>>
>> >>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Kevin Bringard wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think it just flags them differently if it meets a certain
>> set of
>> >>>> "default" criteria, like, the BSSID is "linksys" and the
>> channel is
>> >>>> "6" and the IP range is 192.168.1.x.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As far as I know (and I have not used Kismet in some time) it
>> >>>> doesn't
>> >>>> actually log into the router and let you know if its using a
>> >>>> default
>> >>>> password
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hope this helps..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -- Kevin
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 4/16/06, gmail <theholymacintosh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>> Huh.  I could have sworn that on my bud's linux setup, kismet
>> >>>>> listed routers
>> >>>>> with a full default setup showed up differently.  But now that
>> >>>>> I think about
>> >>>>> it, I have no idea how, since you're absolutely correct.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Barry Woods wrote:
>> >>>>> No.  Kismet isn't a cient manager, it just listens.  You can't
>> >>>>> connect while
>> >>>>> in rfmon.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 4/16/06, gmail < theholymacintosh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Doesn't kismet already do this (idea #4)?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Apr 16, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Barry Woods wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hahahahahahaha!   Okay, I just don't want anybody to get into
>> >>>>>> trouble.  :)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 4/16/06, Patrick Kelley <opticrealm@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I said that some of the ideas were crazy.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I call it, "brain-storming."
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In photography, sometimes you have to take a lot of pictures
>> >>>>>>> to get a
>> >>>>> few good ones.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In brain-storming, you have to think up a lot of ieas to get
>> >>>>>>> a few good
>> >>>>> ones.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Anyways, if you implemented idea 6, then kismac would change
>> >>>>>>> your MAC
>> >>>>> address, making Idea 4 somewhat untraceable!  (untraceable = no
>> >>>>> prison
>> >>>>> time!!!)  (Just kidding...)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 4/16/06, Barry Woods < barry99705@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Uhh, I think I'd like to stay out of prison, thank you very
>> >>>>>>>> much.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 4/15/06, Patrick Kelley < opticrealm@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Here are some Google Summer of Code Ideas.  They get
>> >>>>>>>>> crazier further
>> >>>>> down the list...
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Idea 4) - If encryption was disabled, Kismac would
>> >>>>>>>>> automatically try
>> >>>>> to login to the wireless router using the manufacturers'
>> >>>>> default password.
>> >>>>> If it worked, a different color would be displayed in the map
>> >>>>> view.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/15/06, Geoffrey Kruse < gkruse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll look into it :)
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Geoff
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Patrick Kelley wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Is the Kismac project planning to put in a proposal to be
>> >>>>>>>>>> a mentor
>> >>>>> for the Google Summer of Code 2006?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/soc/
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------
>> >>>>>>>>>> Patrick Kelley
>> >>>>>>>>>> 623.332.0290
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://web.mac.com/opticrealm/iWeb/
>> >>>>>>>>>> Computer Systems Eng. (Undergrad.)
>> >>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --------------------
>> >>>>>>>> Patrick Kelley
>> >>>>>>>> 623.332.0290
>> >>>>>>>> http://web.mac.com/opticrealm/iWeb/
>> >>>>>>>> Computer Systems Eng. (Undergrad.)
>> >>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --------------------
>> >>>>>>> Patrick Kelley
>> >>>>>>> 623.332.0290
>> >>>>>>> http://web.mac.com/opticrealm/iWeb/
>> >>>>>>> Computer Systems Eng. (Undergrad.)
>> >>>>>>> Arizona State University
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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