[KACT] Re: earth and space science

  • From: "Cline, Brad" <bcline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <kact@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:22:57 -0500

I see.  It is interesting to see how different administrations think
differently here.  Our administration took a different view.  They took
the approach that any student wishing to meet qualified admissions
standards will just have to take 4 years of science since the physical
science did not count.  Part of that is due to the fact that we have
plenty of teachers to teach physical science and next to nobody to teach




From: kact-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:kact-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rachel Dougherty
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:18 AM
To: kact@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [KACT] Re: earth and space science


We dropped the physical science class because it is not accepted as one
of the science courses for applied admissions to kansas schools, and
that was a big deal to our administration. We now have moved physical
science to the 8th grade year.



From: kact-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:kact-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cline, Brad
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:47 AM
To: kact@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [KACT] Re: earth and space science

With all the schools going to Earth Science for Freshman level, when are
you getting the Chemistry and Physics components into the curriculum?
Better yet when are your students taking the Physical Science state
test?  Earth Science components on the test are not as prevalent as
Chemistry and Physics components.   How will this affect your test
scores, if you don't have everybody taking Chemistry and/or Physics
(which it is doubtful you have everybody taking both)?


We have opted to have a 9th grade physical science class (which can
include physics, chemistry, and earth science components) and would
cover the state requirement.  We rely on the 8th grade to hit the Earth
Science more and we concentrate the 9th grade more on the Chemistry and
Physics and fill in the missing gaps in the Earth Sciences.  By the end
of 9th grade the students will have hit the physical science standards
and can be tested.  Those that take Chemistry and Physics are all the
more prepared if you test them later. 


We currently do not have an Earth / Space science course at the high
school level.  Our Geology/Space Science class got dumped due to the
fact we could not find any applicants that were certified in Earth/Space
Science.  Hold on to those teachers if you have them because it is
becoming impossible to find them with that certification and you must be
Earth/Space certified to teach an Earth Science course.  You do not have
to have earth/space certification if you have a physical science class
with earth science components included.  



Brad Cline

Science Dept. Chair

AP Chemistry & Physics Teacher

Goddard High School

2500 S 199th St West

Goddard, KS 67052

316-794-41000 x2808




I am interested in how other districts address the KSDE graduation
requirement for 3 credits of science, specifically the requirement for
earth and space science concepts.  I copied the sentence below directly
from the KSBE regulations for graduation requirements:

"three units of science, which shall include physical, biological, and
earth and space science concepts and which shall include at least one
unit as a laboratory course"

Do you offer an earth science course?  If so, at what level?  If not,
where do you cover the above requirement?  At Maize, we have Geoscience
which is a district graduation requirement and is offered as our
freshman science course.  What do the rest of you do? 

Any input would be appreciated!  Hope you all are having a great year!


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