[JYO] MCAA Meeting Notes..

From Dennis Boykin...

Ed

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Here are some notes from last night's meeting.  Redistribute as desired.

1)  It was an AWESOME night to fly !  Gary Harris and I parked next to each 
other on the ramp, and realized that neither one of us had ever flown into GAI. 
 It's a nice little airport.  The sky was glass-smooth and crystal clear.

2)  Just a little background:  The Montgomery County Airpark Association is a 
private group that supports the airport.  I gather from the conversations 
that the airport is publicly owned and privately operated.  

3) The A/P manager gave a good briefing on taxiway upgrades and paving jobs, 
most of which will only affect parking areas, and will be done before 
November.  She also briefed the new Internet access in the pilot briefing room 
(I saw 
it, and it's REALLY nice) as well as wireless Internet access from both the 
terminal building and OUTSIDE on the ramp.  This is a very nice feature, which 
we should revisit with JYO Management for the new terminal.  I know the subject 
has come up before and been put off, but it's definitely a huge advantage to 
be able to bring your laptop to the cockpit and get real-time weather before 
you launch.

4)  The Collings Foundation's B-17 and B-24 bombers will divert from their 
original destination and be at Gaithersburg October 9th, 10th, and 11th.  
They'll fly early in the morning and between 5 & 7 at night.  See  
http://www.collingsfoundation.org  for more information.

5)  A local flight instructor gave a good pitch on ADIZ procedures.  He 
covered several good topics, including the EMI VOR 'Trap' (flight strip goes to 
NY 
Center rather than WASH Center if you originate your ADIZ plan there) and the 
differences between different controller phraseology.  I've asked him to send 
me the briefing, which I'll forward to Ed for posting on the Leesburg Pilots 
site. 

6)  Gary Harris briefed the continuing saga of the Dulles East Downwind 
Transition.  Prior to the ADIZ, this was a Dulles Tower procedure.  Now, it's 
still 
a very viable VFR procedure, it's just controlled by Potomac Approach rather 
than the tower.  For southbound traffic from JYO or GAI, it reduces your 
travel time significantly.

The same rules apply; between 1,500 to 2,500 feet traveling north or south, 
just east of Dulles.  Expect radar vectors in 5 degree increments as they keep 
you from entering the FRZ.  From JYO or GAI, Gary recommends filing 'Direct 
ARMEL Direct BRV' on your ADIZ flight plan to give the controller a head's up 
of 
what you're going to ask for.  I personally have gotten Class B clearance and 
approval for the East Downwind Transition everytime I've asked for it.  When 
the controller sees BRV as your exit point, they know what you want.  It 
helps, however, to ask for it after your initial call up.

There are three intersections associated with the transition.  They are 
unpublished (privately developed by United and Atlantic Coast, the folks who 
actually did the development of the transition procedure) and named (from north 
to 
south) HUSEL, CARAS, and STAYO.  They form a straight line that puts you right 
down the middle of the downwind transition path.  HOWEVER:  They are not 
public use, and you can't blame me, the FAA, or anyone else if they don't work. 
 I 
checked on my GPS last night; they are not in my King database.  They might be 
in the Jeppesen database, but they're definitely not listed on landings.com.

It's easy enough to fly it without 'em, though....just stay over the Fairfax 
County Parkway.  If you can see the Beltway under your plane, pull your 
license out of your wallet and rip it up; you won't be needing it much anymore !

Dennis Boykin
N7848N JYO





-----Original Message-----
From: FlyboyEd@xxxxxxx [mailto:FlyboyEd@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:38 PM
To: jyo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [JYO] MCAA Meeting Wednesday


Forwarded from GAI Airport Director Wendy Carter... Also, looks like Leesburg 
Pilot Gary Harris will be presenting...

Ed

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