[jsfg_cinti] Re: career management

I totally agree.  They wanted my wife also.  When I showed up with out her, 
they refused to have the meeting and reschedule. This is when I went on the 
internet to find that changed their name to BH because of bad press.  see 
Kansas city star newspaper article on them . I think it typifies what they 
do.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Drummond (t-mobile)" <kdrummond@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <robinh@xxxxxxxx>; <glohmueller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: [jsfg_cinti] Re: career management


> Greg and others,  I can echo the comment made by Robin.  I can also add to
> it that a year ago I spoke to Bernard Haldane and the package they put
> together for me was over $10K.  Another one of their approached is that 
> they
> wanted to bring my wife to a meeting with them.  I'm sure that the plan is
> to play on the fear and concern of a non-working spouse who frankly 
> doesn't
> completely understand what I do for a living.  Then use that as a further
> leverage point to shake loose the money.
>
> I would not recommend this approach and find their tactics very
> discomforting.  Especially, when you find yourself income challenged to
> start with.
>
> Just my thoughts/good luck,
>
> Keith
>
> Keith Drummond
>
> (513) 422-3741  Home
> (513) 422-3990  Office
> (513) 607-8410  Cellular
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsfg_cinti-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jsfg_cinti-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Robin L. Hendley
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:33 PM
> To: glohmueller@xxxxxxxxxxxx; jsfg_cinti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jsfg_cinti] Re: career management
>
>
>
> Greg and others,
>
> Yes, unfortunately I do have some past experience with this company and a
> few others like them. While I do not argue thay can provide job search and
> placememt assistance, it will cost yoou a great deal of money with no
> guarantee of success which you will not get. Keep in mind, these type of
> firms are NOT headhunters hired by an employer to locate candidates. In
> 1995, (in Dayton) they wanted $3500.00 up front and I was expected to do 
> my
> own lead searching with one of their reps looking over my shoulder in 
> their
> offices. Also, they would help prep you for an interview and teach you how
> to negotiate for salary and benefits after you located the position and 
> made
> it to the interview stage. Part of the sales pitch was they would help you
> negotiate pay above what you were originally willing to accept and the
> difference would cover your cost for their services. When I asked to view
> past customer satisfaction evidence, I was given a beat up old black
> notebook with badly and sloppily written letters from persons I could not
> identify to check with. The argument was to protect client 
> confidentiality.
>
> Sorry to seem so negative, but the reality is these firms cannot do more 
> for
> you than you can do for yourself in addition to taking advantage of a
> variety of no cost resources out there, one of which is JSFG.
>
> Robin Hendley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsfg_cinti-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jsfg_cinti-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gregory Lohmueller
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:59 PM
> To: jsfg_cinti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jsfg_cinti] career management
>
>
> To all JSFG members,
> Does anyone know about or have experience with Bernard Haldane Associates.
> They assist people in career management.
>
> Thank you for any response.
>
> Greg
>
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