[jsfg_cinti] Re: career management

Greg and others,  I can echo the comment made by Robin.  I can also add to
it that a year ago I spoke to Bernard Haldane and the package they put
together for me was over $10K.  Another one of their approached is that they
wanted to bring my wife to a meeting with them.  I'm sure that the plan is
to play on the fear and concern of a non-working spouse who frankly doesn't
completely understand what I do for a living.  Then use that as a further
leverage point to shake loose the money.

I would not recommend this approach and find their tactics very
discomforting.  Especially, when you find yourself income challenged to
start with.

Just my thoughts/good luck,

Keith

Keith Drummond

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(513) 422-3990  Office
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[mailto:jsfg_cinti-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Robin L. Hendley
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Subject: [jsfg_cinti] Re: career management



Greg and others,

Yes, unfortunately I do have some past experience with this company and a
few others like them. While I do not argue thay can provide job search and
placememt assistance, it will cost yoou a great deal of money with no
guarantee of success which you will not get. Keep in mind, these type of
firms are NOT headhunters hired by an employer to locate candidates. In
1995, (in Dayton) they wanted $3500.00 up front and I was expected to do my
own lead searching with one of their reps looking over my shoulder in their
offices. Also, they would help prep you for an interview and teach you how
to negotiate for salary and benefits after you located the position and made
it to the interview stage. Part of the sales pitch was they would help you
negotiate pay above what you were originally willing to accept and the
difference would cover your cost for their services. When I asked to view
past customer satisfaction evidence, I was given a beat up old black
notebook with badly and sloppily written letters from persons I could not
identify to check with. The argument was to protect client confidentiality.

Sorry to seem so negative, but the reality is these firms cannot do more for
you than you can do for yourself in addition to taking advantage of a
variety of no cost resources out there, one of which is JSFG.

Robin Hendley

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[mailto:jsfg_cinti-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gregory Lohmueller
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:59 PM
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Subject: [jsfg_cinti] career management


To all JSFG members,
Does anyone know about or have experience with Bernard Haldane Associates.
They assist people in career management.

Thank you for any response.

Greg

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