RE: worst release
- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 09:30:35 -0400
They're probably tired of hearing about my Access problem, but that's
all right; I'm tired of reporting it. I sent a sample database last
winter, although I stressed at the time that there was nothing special
about this database. I was told last week the problem was fixed, but
it's not on my platform, so there may be some hardware specific issues
here.
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:41 PM
To: 'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: worst release
I find it interesting that some have issues and some are satisfied. I
my self put jaws11 on my machine at work and rolled back the next day
because I had so many issues. However I put jaws11 on my home computer
and am satisfied. Both computers are XP Pro.
The difference is the software I use. At home I mostly use IE and
windows media player or real player and little else where at work I use
a whole host of software and I just had to many issues even on
applications they claim to support.
As someone else commented I nolonger bother running my issues by FS
because of their shrug off attitude.
Tom Bissett
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: May 10, 2010 3:11 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: worst release
Hi John,
For the most part rev 11 works fairly well. There seems to be some lag
problems and 11 seems to lose focus on a regular basis.
Now, as for Dave's comments I will simply remind all of what happened to
Julius Caesar who tried to be all things to all people, he was knifed to
death. (LOL) I also am a retired software engineer (only back then we
were computer programmers and systems analysts) and I strongly suggest
the KISS philosophy. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
All I want JAWS to do is simply read the blamed screen.
Cy, The Anasazi
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of john.falter
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:04 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: worst release
I've had good results with rev 11.
Dave, do you do a customized install?
I looked at the "What's new in JAWS 11" and found 44 entries--most not
related to Research-it.
Many of todays' products try to get customers by adding new or extended
features--like PCs, cell phones, washers, dryers, etc.
Otherwise people would keep their old whatEver until it broke. That
wouldn't
stimulate our economy!
As a retired software engineer, I know that is hard to satisfy the
varied needs of a large customer base. The pivot tables that you want
may not be useful to web-only users and so on.
I, would, like to see better regression testing!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: worst release
> I've said this directly to FS Support in my feedback, that I think
> JAWS is becoming a victim of bloatware. It's time that it was stripped
> down to its fundamentals, and then allow user selection of "features"
> during the install.
>
> For example I don't use Braille, nor Magi, so I would think that my
> preferred "kernel" of JAWS could be an audio-only version to start
> with, and then I add on other things, like additional synthesizers,
> additional voices, ResearchIt, etc.
>
> If I wanted Braille then I would select that in the install as one of
> the features I needed.
>
> I've got to believe that switching to this paradigm would, in the long
> run, save FS one heck of a lot of cost in trying to update, fix, and
> maintain their ever-increasing "Medusa-ware".
>
> They didn't agree with me.
>
> My opinions expressed here are mine, and not meant to represent any
> other person or organization But even my dog agrees.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 08:27
> Subject: Re: worst release
>
>
>
> Well, if JAWS 11 is bad, can JAWS 12 be even worse?
>
> Gerald
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: worst release
>
>
>>I suspect most of it is jfw11 as 11 hasn't worked for me on either my
>>xp or vista systems.
>>
>> On 5/10/10, Cy Selfridge <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> After I sent the message I remembered 4.5 and you are exactly
correct.
>>>
>>> This was long about the time OpenBook came out with the infamous
>>> Ruby edition and open Book went completely to Hell.
>>>
>>> Oh well, there will be times such as these.
>>>
>>> I did not install JAWS 11 on my XP machine so I don't know how much
>>> is JAWS and how much is Winders 7.
>>>
>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Alan Dicey
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:39 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: worst release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Cy,
>>>
>>> That was version 4.0!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, nothing worked with it at all !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They tryed to improve it with some upgrades, but finally had to come
>>> out with 4.5 !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Miami, Florida
>>>
>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>>
>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>>
>>> "Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"
>>>
>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>> <http://americanblindchess.org/> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Cy Selfridge <mailto:cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:26 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: worst release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Ted,
>>>
>>> After some thought I think I disagree with you about 11 being the
>>> worst release.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that long about 3.5 or 4 there was a release which
>>> was a complete disaster. I can't recall which release exactly it was
>>> but almost nothing worked.
>>>
>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:00 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marvelous, and this is the big gee-whiz reason we're all supposed to
>>> switch!
>>> This has to be the worst release ever.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Tom Lange
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:06 PM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried several locations and varied the syntax slightly; it still
>>> didn't work. Even their example "Jackson, MS" didn't. Oh well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Cindy Handel <mailto:cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:54 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just tried that. There must be something wrong with that part of
>>> ResearchIt. I didn't get any results, either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Stacey Robinson <mailto:staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:19 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I just joined this list last night.
>>>
>>> I just recently (this week) upgraded to Jaws 11.
>>>
>>> If I enter research it and check weather (which is my primary
setting)
>>> all
>>> is well.
>>>
>>> If I check time though by entering Nashville, TN. I get no time
search
>>> found
>>> or some such message, what could I be doing wrong.
>>>
>>> I know the time in Nashville so started there first. (I'm in the
same
>>> time
>>> zone)
>>>
>>> Nothing I enter in time search brings me any time info.
>>>
>>> Please help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a blessed day,
>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
>>> Eagleville, Tennessee.
>>> staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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