Re: worst release
- From: "Zdenek Vopat" <zdenekvopat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 23:36:57 +0200
well what do they suppose to tell you the tech dettails of upcoming soolution
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony" <tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: worst release
> The shrug off attitude you mention is more disappointing than the software
> issues.
>
> One could live with issues were someone to take them seriously.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Bissett, Tom
> Sent: 10 May 2010 20:41
> To: 'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: worst release
>
> I find it interesting that some have issues and some are satisfied. I my
> self put jaws11 on my machine at work and rolled back the next day because I
> had so many issues. However I put jaws11 on my home computer and am
> satisfied. Both computers are XP Pro.
> The difference is the software I use. At home I mostly use IE and windows
> media player or real player and little else where at work I use a whole host
> of software and I just had to many issues even on applications they claim to
> support.
>
> As someone else commented I nolonger bother running my issues by FS because
> of their shrug off attitude.
>
> Tom Bissett
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Cy Selfridge
> Sent: May 10, 2010 3:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: worst release
>
> Hi John,
> For the most part rev 11 works fairly well. There seems to be some lag
> problems and 11 seems to lose focus on a regular basis.
> Now, as for Dave's comments I will simply remind all of what happened to
> Julius Caesar who tried to be all things to all people, he was knifed to
> death. (LOL) I also am a retired software engineer (only back then we were
> computer programmers and systems analysts) and I strongly suggest the KISS
> philosophy. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
> All I want JAWS to do is simply read the blamed screen.
> Cy, The Anasazi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of john.falter
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:04 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: worst release
>
> I've had good results with rev 11.
> Dave, do you do a customized install?
> I looked at the "What's new in JAWS 11" and found 44 entries--most not
> related to Research-it.
> Many of todays' products try to get customers by adding new or extended
> features--like PCs, cell phones, washers, dryers, etc.
> Otherwise people would keep their old whatEver until it broke. That wouldn't
>
> stimulate our economy!
> As a retired software engineer, I know that is hard to satisfy the varied
> needs of a large customer base. The pivot tables that you want may not be
> useful to web-only users and so on.
> I, would, like to see better regression testing!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: worst release
>
>
>> I've said this directly to FS Support in my feedback, that I think
>> JAWS is becoming a victim of bloatware. It's time that it was stripped
>> down to its fundamentals, and then allow user selection of "features"
>> during the install.
>>
>> For example I don't use Braille, nor Magi, so I would think that my
>> preferred "kernel" of JAWS could be an audio-only version to start
>> with, and then I add on other things, like additional synthesizers,
>> additional voices, ResearchIt, etc.
>>
>> If I wanted Braille then I would select that in the install as one of
>> the features I needed.
>>
>> I've got to believe that switching to this paradigm would, in the long
>> run, save FS one heck of a lot of cost in trying to update, fix, and
>> maintain their ever-increasing "Medusa-ware".
>>
>> They didn't agree with me.
>>
>> My opinions expressed here are mine, and not meant to represent any
>> other person or organization But even my dog agrees.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 08:27
>> Subject: Re: worst release
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, if JAWS 11 is bad, can JAWS 12 be even worse?
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: worst release
>>
>>
>>>I suspect most of it is jfw11 as 11 hasn't worked for me on either my
>>>xp or vista systems.
>>>
>>> On 5/10/10, Cy Selfridge <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Alan,
>>>>
>>>> After I sent the message I remembered 4.5 and you are exactly correct.
>>>>
>>>> This was long about the time OpenBook came out with the infamous
>>>> Ruby edition and open Book went completely to Hell.
>>>>
>>>> Oh well, there will be times such as these.
>>>>
>>>> I did not install JAWS 11 on my XP machine so I don't know how much
>>>> is JAWS and how much is Winders 7.
>>>>
>>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>>
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Alan Dicey
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:39 AM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: worst release
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Cy,
>>>>
>>>> That was version 4.0!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, nothing worked with it at all !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They tryed to improve it with some upgrades, but finally had to come
>>>> out with 4.5 !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> Miami, Florida
>>>>
>>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>>>
>>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>>>
>>>> "Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"
>>>>
>>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>>> <http://americanblindchess.org/> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Cy Selfridge <mailto:cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:26 AM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: worst release
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Ted,
>>>>
>>>> After some thought I think I disagree with you about 11 being the
>>>> worst release.
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that long about 3.5 or 4 there was a release which
>>>> was a complete disaster. I can't recall which release exactly it was
>>>> but almost nothing worked.
>>>>
>>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:00 AM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: RE: Just joined, research it question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marvelous, and this is the big gee-whiz reason we're all supposed to
>>>> switch!
>>>> This has to be the worst release ever.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Tom Lange
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:06 PM
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I tried several locations and varied the syntax slightly; it still
>>>> didn't work. Even their example "Jackson, MS" didn't. Oh well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Cindy Handel <mailto:cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:54 AM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just tried that. There must be something wrong with that part of
>>>> ResearchIt. I didn't get any results, either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: Stacey Robinson <mailto:staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:19 AM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Just joined, research it question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I just joined this list last night.
>>>>
>>>> I just recently (this week) upgraded to Jaws 11.
>>>>
>>>> If I enter research it and check weather (which is my primary setting)
>>>> all
>>>> is well.
>>>>
>>>> If I check time though by entering Nashville, TN. I get no time search
>>>> found
>>>> or some such message, what could I be doing wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I know the time in Nashville so started there first. (I'm in the same
>>>> time
>>>> zone)
>>>>
>>>> Nothing I enter in time search brings me any time info.
>>>>
>>>> Please help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have a blessed day,
>>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
>>>> Eagleville, Tennessee.
>>>> staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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