RE: worst release

Hi John,
For the most part rev 11 works fairly well. There seems to be some lag
problems and 11 seems to lose focus on a regular basis.
Now, as for Dave's comments I will simply remind all of what happened to
Julius Caesar who tried to be all things to all people, he was knifed to
death. (LOL)
I also am a retired software engineer (only back then we were computer
programmers and systems analysts) and I strongly suggest the KISS
philosophy. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
All I want JAWS to do is simply read the blamed screen. 
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of john.falter
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:04 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: worst release

I've had good results with rev 11.
Dave, do you do a customized install?
I looked at the "What's new in JAWS 11" and found 44 entries--most not 
related to Research-it.
Many of todays' products try to get customers by adding new or extended 
features--like PCs, cell phones, washers, dryers, etc.
Otherwise people would keep their old whatEver until it broke. That wouldn't

stimulate our economy!
As a retired software engineer, I know that is hard to satisfy the varied 
needs of a large customer base. The pivot tables that you want may not be 
useful to web-only users and so on.
I, would, like to see better regression testing!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: worst release


> I've said this directly to FS Support in my feedback, that I think JAWS is
> becoming a victim of bloatware. It's time that it was stripped down to its
> fundamentals, and then allow user selection of "features" during the
> install.
>
> For example I don't use Braille, nor Magi, so I would think that my
> preferred  "kernel" of JAWS could be an audio-only version to start with,
> and then I add on other things, like additional synthesizers, additional
> voices, ResearchIt, etc.
>
> If I wanted Braille then I would select that in the install as one of the
> features I needed.
>
> I've got to believe that switching to this paradigm would, in the long 
> run,
> save FS one heck of a lot of cost in trying to update, fix, and maintain
> their ever-increasing "Medusa-ware".
>
> They didn't agree with me.
>
> My opinions expressed here are mine, and not meant to represent any other
> person or organization But even my dog agrees.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 08:27
> Subject: Re: worst release
>
>
>
> Well, if JAWS 11 is bad, can JAWS 12 be even worse?
>
> Gerald
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: worst release
>
>
>>I suspect most of it is jfw11 as 11 hasn't worked for me on either my
>> xp or vista systems.
>>
>> On 5/10/10, Cy Selfridge <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> After I sent the message I remembered 4.5 and you are exactly correct.
>>>
>>> This was long about the time OpenBook came out with the infamous Ruby
>>> edition and open Book went completely to Hell.
>>>
>>> Oh well, there will be times such as these.
>>>
>>> I did not install JAWS 11 on my XP machine so I don't know how much is
>>> JAWS
>>> and how much is Winders 7.
>>>
>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Alan Dicey
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:39 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: worst release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Cy,
>>>
>>> That was version 4.0!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, nothing worked with it at all !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They tryed to improve it with some upgrades, but finally had to come out
>>> with 4.5 !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Miami, Florida
>>>
>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>>
>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>>
>>> "Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"
>>>
>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>> <http://americanblindchess.org/> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Cy Selfridge <mailto:cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:26 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: worst release
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Ted,
>>>
>>> After some thought I think I disagree with you about 11 being the worst
>>> release.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that long about 3.5 or 4 there was a release which was a
>>> complete disaster. I can't recall which release exactly it was but 
>>> almost
>>> nothing worked.
>>>
>>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:00 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marvelous, and this is the big gee-whiz reason we're all supposed to
>>> switch!
>>> This has to be the worst release ever.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Tom Lange
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:06 PM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried several locations and varied the syntax slightly; it still 
>>> didn't
>>> work.  Even their example "Jackson, MS" didn't.  Oh well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Cindy Handel <mailto:cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:54 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just tried that.  There must be something wrong with that part of
>>> ResearchIt.  I didn't get any results, either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Stacey Robinson <mailto:staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:19 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Just joined, research it question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I just joined this list last night.
>>>
>>> I just recently (this week) upgraded to Jaws 11.
>>>
>>> If I enter research it and check weather (which is my primary setting)
>>> all
>>> is well.
>>>
>>> If I check time though by entering Nashville, TN. I get no time search
>>> found
>>> or some such message, what could I be doing wrong.
>>>
>>> I know the time in Nashville so started there first. (I'm in the same
>>> time
>>> zone)
>>>
>>> Nothing I enter in time search brings me any time info.
>>>
>>> Please help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a blessed day,
>>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
>>> Eagleville, Tennessee.
>>> staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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