RE: worst release

  • From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:14:19 -0600

Dave,
Well, this  bloatware is the same virus which struck OpenBook.
Way back before the Ruby Edition OpenBook was reasonably simple to use and
worked pretty well.
Today's offering is a royal pain in the posterior if all you wanted to do is
scan the blamed document and then either save or read it.
I concur that a basic module for JAWS would sure make some sense.
Cy, The anasazi 

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:07 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: worst release

I've said this directly to FS Support in my feedback, that I think JAWS is 
becoming a victim of bloatware. It's time that it was stripped down to its 
fundamentals, and then allow user selection of "features" during the 
install.

For example I don't use Braille, nor Magi, so I would think that my 
preferred  "kernel" of JAWS could be an audio-only version to start with, 
and then I add on other things, like additional synthesizers, additional 
voices, ResearchIt, etc.

If I wanted Braille then I would select that in the install as one of the 
features I needed.

I've got to believe that switching to this paradigm would, in the long run, 
save FS one heck of a lot of cost in trying to update, fix, and maintain 
their ever-increasing "Medusa-ware".

They didn't agree with me.

My opinions expressed here are mine, and not meant to represent any other 
person or organization But even my dog agrees.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 08:27
Subject: Re: worst release



Well, if JAWS 11 is bad, can JAWS 12 be even worse?

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: worst release


>I suspect most of it is jfw11 as 11 hasn't worked for me on either my
> xp or vista systems.
>
> On 5/10/10, Cy Selfridge <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Alan,
>>
>> After I sent the message I remembered 4.5 and you are exactly correct.
>>
>> This was long about the time OpenBook came out with the infamous Ruby
>> edition and open Book went completely to Hell.
>>
>> Oh well, there will be times such as these.
>>
>> I did not install JAWS 11 on my XP machine so I don't know how much is
>> JAWS
>> and how much is Winders 7.
>>
>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Alan Dicey
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:39 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: worst release
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Cy,
>>
>> That was version 4.0!
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, nothing worked with it at all !
>>
>>
>>
>> They tryed to improve it with some upgrades, but finally had to come out
>> with 4.5 !
>>
>>
>>
>> With Best Regards,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Miami, Florida
>>
>> Alan Dicey, President
>>
>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>
>> "Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"
>>
>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>> <http://americanblindchess.org/> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Cy Selfridge <mailto:cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:26 AM
>>
>> Subject: worst release
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Ted,
>>
>> After some thought I think I disagree with you about 11 being the worst
>> release.
>>
>> It seems to me that long about 3.5 or 4 there was a release which was a
>> complete disaster. I can't recall which release exactly it was but almost
>> nothing worked.
>>
>> Cy, The Anasazi
>>
>>
>>
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:00 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Just joined, research it question
>>
>>
>>
>> Marvelous, and this is the big gee-whiz reason we're all supposed to
>> switch!
>> This has to be the worst release ever.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Tom Lange
>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:06 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried several locations and varied the syntax slightly; it still didn't
>> work.  Even their example "Jackson, MS" didn't.  Oh well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Cindy Handel <mailto:cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:54 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Just joined, research it question
>>
>>
>>
>> I just tried that.  There must be something wrong with that part of
>> ResearchIt.  I didn't get any results, either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Stacey Robinson <mailto:staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:19 AM
>>
>> Subject: Just joined, research it question
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just joined this list last night.
>>
>> I just recently (this week) upgraded to Jaws 11.
>>
>> If I enter research it and check weather (which is my primary setting)
>> all
>> is well.
>>
>> If I check time though by entering Nashville, TN. I get no time search
>> found
>> or some such message, what could I be doing wrong.
>>
>> I know the time in Nashville so started there first. (I'm in the same
>> time
>> zone)
>>
>> Nothing I enter in time search brings me any time info.
>>
>> Please help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a blessed day,
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
>> Eagleville, Tennessee.
>> staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>
>
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