RE: word perfect

David,=20

Below is a quote from the original message that was one of the points I
was addressing:

> Also should I just install my mocrosoft word on my new machine. It
came with my windows 98 machine and I got it in 1999.

I seem to be saying yes, and upgrade it as soon as is possible for you.
You seem to be saying no.  We are then disagreeing.

Chip

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:21 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: word perfect
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> Chip,
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> We are not disagreeing.  He told us all we needed to know=20
> about this at the outset and he's been telling us since then.=20
>  The fact is that word is not needed in this situation.
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> Johnnie Apple Seed
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:06 PM
> Subject: RE: word perfect
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> Ok, I guess it comes down to you and I will have to agree to=20
> disagree as
> to "what he needs", and he will have to decide for himself.
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> As you point out, if every dollar counts, then something free=20
> is always
> the first choice; as I'm trying to point out, sometimes our needs or
> circumstances force us to spend money we'd rather not spend to avoid a
> great deal of difficulty trying to do it with freeware.
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> Chip
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> =3D20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:55 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: word perfect
> >=3D20
> > Yeah,  I know what you're getting at but the fact remains=3D20
> > that there are entire classes of people who will never need=3D20
> > and never use word and be happy not doing it.  Star office is=3D20
> > free and or cheap so maybe he should get that instead.  the=3D20
> > point is that he can get what he needs without word.
> >=3D20
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >=3D20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:41 AM
> > Subject: RE: word perfect
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > It's not so much reading, that *usually* converts ok, but=3D20
> > often a lot of
> > the structures used to produce a complex document, it's=20
> structure and
> > it's formatting, are lost in the conversion; this means that=3D20
> > the person
> > with only Wordpad cannot then work on a Word document that's=3D20
> > been given
> > them, and return it to the originator with the needed changes.
> >=3D20
> > They also cannot make use of a Word form, which is a document=3D20
> > structured
> > in such a way as to be easy to fill out; however, you must=20
> use Word to
> > do this, you can't use anything else, including Wordpad.
> >=3D20
> > Hth,
> >=3D20
> > Chip
> >=3D20
> > =3D3D20
> >=3D20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:13 AM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: word perfect
> > >=3D3D20
> > > I have used wordpad for most of the last 5 years of =
computing=3D3D20
> > > on my system and have not found a document worth reading =
that=3D3D20
> > > I could not read with word pad.
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> > >=3D3D20
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:05 AM
> > > Subject: RE: word perfect
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Wordpad however doesn't allow you to import and edit Word=3D3D20
> > > documents (not
> > > without possibly losing features or formatting that is). =3D20
> > My message,
> > > however unfortunate, is that it's very likely someone will =
at=3D3D20
> > > some time
> > > give the original poster a word document, and he will then have a
> > > problem to deal with it.  That is what, more than anything=3D3D20
> > > else, forced
> > > us to go through a very painful conversion from=20
> WordPerfect to Word.
> > >=3D3D20
> > > We literally have hundreds of thousands of documents in=3D20
> > Word Perfect,
> > > and 20 years of staff with WP experience, not to mention =
many=3D3D20
> > > thousands
> > > of lines of document automation programming, and yet we found it
> > > necessary to make the conversion, dispite these very strong=3D3D20
> > > reasons not
> > > to do so.  It's pretty much all I've been doing for the=3D20
> > last 18 months
> > > (reprogramming systems in Word/VBA instead of
> > > WordPerfect/PerfectScript).  Believe me, I've come to a=20
> rather good
> > > understanding as to the relative merrits of each system.
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Chip
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Chip
> > >=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20
> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: word perfect
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > What he will be doing with writing does not justify the=20
> 29=3D3D3D20
> > > > dollars or 150 dollars he'll have to spend on word/office.  =3D
> I=3D3D3D20
> > > > am not even certain that dell will now offer him the =3D
> upgrade=3D3D3D20
> > > > to word as that is a time of purchase offer so he'll have =3D
> to=3D3D3D20
> > > > pay more for it.  He has word pad on his system and that =3D
> will=3D3D3D20
> > > > allow him to save documents in .rtf which works fine with word.
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:37 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: word perfect
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > Steve,
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > Sorry, but I have to disagree with this advice.
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > It's true enough that outlook express will work fine=3D3D20
> > > without having to
> > > > add MS Office.  However, like it or not, Microsoft word=3D3D3D20
> > > > document format
> > > > has become the "industry standard" for documents which =
are=3D3D20
> > > meant to be
> > > > edited (as opposed to PDF for those which aren't meant to=3D3D20
> > > be changed).
> > > > You'll probably want to switch to Word for this reason alone.
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > If this isn't sufficient, I believe that the jaws =
support=3D3D3D20
> > > > from FS is now
> > > > much better for MS Word than it is for WordPerfect.
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > One final note, WordPerfect will claim that you can import Word
> > > > documents, and then edit them in WordPerfect, and then=20
> save=3D3D3D20
> > > > them back in
> > > > Word format when you need this.  The rest of the world =3D
> pretty=3D3D3D20
> > > > much says
> > > > this will more likely than not destroy your document's=20
> formatting.
> > > > That's been our own experience here where I work (a corporate
> > > > environment of 350 WordPerfect users until recently).
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > Hth,
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > Chip
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D3D20
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:06 AM
> > > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Re: word perfect
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > Word perfect works fine on your system.  Just get the=3D20
> > stand=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > alone spell checker for outlook express if you can=20
> and=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > install and use it if wp 12 works for you, don't waste=3D20
> > your=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > money on the behemoth.
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: word perfect
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > I didn't realize that when I ordered the new machine =3D
> that=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > word perfec and
> > > > > microsoft didn't work together. I asked the guy if word=3D20
> > pad=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > and note pad
> > > > > were on there with word perfect and he said yes. He=3D20
> > didn't=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > tell me that
> > > > > microsoft products didn't work with correll. He told me =3D3D
> > that=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > I could have
> > > > > had microsoft word for $29 more and I said no  thinking=3D20
> > it=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > would be okay to
> > > > > have word perfect. I also realize now that most =
email=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > programs work with
> > > > > microsoft word and I will have to get it. I made a mistake.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:49 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: word perfect
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > >=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > > It appears that FS hasn't added any support for=3D3D20
> > > WordPerfect since
> > > > > > version 10 (just checking my jfw5.1 dir quickly anyway).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If Corel is still following their previous pattern, =3D
> you=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > need to modify
> > > > > > your registry to make WP 12 use "standard" video =3D
> output=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > techniques so
> > > > > > that jfw will speak properly.  Below are 3 lines that=3D20
> > you=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > could copy and
> > > > > > paste, using any text editor, into a file with a .reg =3D3D
> > file=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > extension.
> > > > > > Then, once you have it, double click it or run it just =3D3D
> > like=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > you would
> > > > > > any program and it will make the registry change=20
> that I=3D3D3D20
> > > > expect WP 12
> > > > > > still needs.  If WP doesn't need this key any longer, =3D3D
> > this=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > won't hurt
> > > > > > anything, it will just add an unused key in your=20
> registry. =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > Regedit may
> > > > > > ask you if it's ok to do this, depending on your =3D3D
> > particular=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > version, so
> > > > > > you should choose "yes".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for your Word question; sure, go ahead and =
install=3D3D3D20
> > > > what you have,
> > > > > > assuming your new pc didn't come with anything newer; =3D3D
> > but,=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > it's pretty
> > > > > > important to get those Word bug fixes, so I'd buy=20
> the=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > latest version as
> > > > > > soon as you can.  You can get it as part of the MS=3D20
> > Office=3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > Small Business
> > > > > > Suite for around $99.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hth,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chip
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > REGEDIT4
> > > > > > [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Corel\WordPerfect\12\Display]
> > > > > > "Disable Optimization"=3D3D3D3D3D3D"1"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Gomes
> > > > > >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 PM
> > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >> Subject: word perfect
> > > > > >>=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > >> On my new machine I have the new word perfect 12.=20
> Does=3D3D3D20
> > > > anyone=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > >> know all about how to use it who  I could talk to? =3D3D
> > Also=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > >> should I just install my mocrosoft word on my new=3D3D3D20
> > > > machine. it=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > >> came with my windows 98 machine and I got it in=3D20
> > 1999.=3D3D3D3D3D20
> > > > > >> --
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