Outlook and Outlook express can usually find it if you tell it is hotmail or an http service when you set up the account. However, I have learned something pretty cool. You can get Outlook to show a folder list that contains two sets of folders, one for your local system and one for the html server. The cool thing about this is that you can copy messages to and from your computer and the service. This is wonderful for working from more than one computer and if you want to get some extra control over what your hotmail or MSN account is doing. When setting up the account, tell it is a html server and then use the following name: http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata Maybe you would want to use cut and past fort this since it is a little bit on the long side. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Dyer Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:38 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: what is the incoming and out going server names for hotmail? Hello list. I have a question about hotmail. I want to set up my msn account with out look express, but I need to know what the in coming and out going server names are so that I can set it up. Thanks. Matt To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.