And not evvery person has to psychoanalyze every keystroke they use or the
subliminal reason for using one approach over another. We are all happy
that you gained your understanding of computers and windows when you were
sighted but not everyone on this list had that privilage and we are tackling
our understanding of the computer from a jaws perspective. Yes, your
understanding of the computer probably surpasses the comprehension of most
blind users but the objective for all is to achieve our necessary result.
Drop it, this has become a moot issue.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field
Well, it's in light of the last thing you said that I'm totally comfortable
with just pressing control home, then E or F. What is so time consuming or
difficult about that, I can't imagine. It's just an ordinary Windows key
command to get to the top of the page, then the handy Jaws single-letter
thing to find something on the page. Bam, bam, bam. Takes no time at all.
And, though it may seem to you like two separate actions, it is *not* more
touches of the keys! Do you see that?
I think if people wouldn't feel slavishly obligated to learn every Jaws key
combo, including ones that are, so far as I can see, and no insult intended,
superfluous, but understand that it's really not vital, they'd be less
burdened by all these keystrokes to remember. There's another, more
fundamental point to this, which is that I think a lot of Jaws training and
even, apparently its help files, have the perhaps unintended effect of
blurring the distinction between Windows itself, Windows-based applications
(Word, IE, etc. and Jaws so that the jaws user doesn't know how the computer
actually works, and winds up believing that these millions of Jaws commands
are all there is. It's just kind of strange. I ought to add that I used
computers without Jaws before acquiring Jaws and learning to use it, so I
had a basic sense of what was the computer and what was Jaws. Like knowing
which are your legs and which is the cane you're using to help yourself walk
because the legs are weak. See what I mean?
OI----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch44@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field
Actually, this 3 key sequence is not tricky but your method gets you to the
same place.
I expect most people using the 3 key method use the left pinky for the
control key and the right thumb for the insert key and the right index
finger for the home key. This puts you on the first form field with one
less keystroke than your method but I think the point is that our habits
formed with JAWS are hard to break and I just routinely use the 3 key
method.
Along these lines, it seems that as JAWS gets more powerful and the
keystrokes associated with all the ever growing options and customization
possibilities grow, the list of keystrokes seems at times incomprehensible.
Mitch
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field
As I just said,, now that someone told me, why not just go to the top of the
Web page with control home and then press F or E, depending what you're
looking for? this is a pretty acrobatic key command that doesn't seem very
necessary to me. But if you like it, fine. God knows we don't need an
argument over how many ways we can do things, etc. So, just asking.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch44@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field
Hi, Yardbird this is the same as has been stated e.g. control plus insert
key plus the home key. The 'home' key is also the #7 when the num lock is
turned on. Mitch----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field
Wow. I turned on the Insert 1 function to hear what this was, but my
fingers can't figure out how to do it, even. What *is* this?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Hicks" <citsengtwenty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field
CTRL+JAWSKEY+Home on the numberpad.
----- Original Message ----- From: "francis" <francisrwama@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: "jfw free lists" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: what is the hot key for search or forms field
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