Well, it's in light of the last thing you said that I'm totally comfortable with just pressing control home, then E or F. What is so time consuming or difficult about that, I can't imagine. It's just an ordinary Windows key command to get to the top of the page, then the handy Jaws single-letter thing to find something on the page. Bam, bam, bam. Takes no time at all. And, though it may seem to you like two separate actions, it is *not* more touches of the keys! Do you see that? I think if people wouldn't feel slavishly obligated to learn every Jaws key combo, including ones that are, so far as I can see, and no insult intended, superfluous, but understand that it's really not vital, they'd be less burdened by all these keystrokes to remember. There's another, more fundamental point to this, which is that I think a lot of Jaws training and even, apparently its help files, have the perhaps unintended effect of blurring the distinction between Windows itself, Windows-based applications (Word, IE, etc. and Jaws so that the jaws user doesn't know how the computer actually works, and winds up believing that these millions of Jaws commands are all there is. It's just kind of strange. I ought to add that I used computers without Jaws before acquiring Jaws and learning to use it, so I had a basic sense of what was the computer and what was Jaws. Like knowing which are your legs and which is the cane you're using to help yourself walk because the legs are weak. See what I mean? OI----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch44@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field Actually, this 3 key sequence is not tricky but your method gets you to the same place. I expect most people using the 3 key method use the left pinky for the control key and the right thumb for the insert key and the right index finger for the home key. This puts you on the first form field with one less keystroke than your method but I think the point is that our habits formed with JAWS are hard to break and I just routinely use the 3 key method. Along these lines, it seems that as JAWS gets more powerful and the keystrokes associated with all the ever growing options and customization possibilities grow, the list of keystrokes seems at times incomprehensible. Mitch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:46 AM Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field As I just said,, now that someone told me, why not just go to the top of the Web page with control home and then press F or E, depending what you're looking for? this is a pretty acrobatic key command that doesn't seem very necessary to me. But if you like it, fine. God knows we don't need an argument over how many ways we can do things, etc. So, just asking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch44@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field Hi, Yardbird this is the same as has been stated e.g. control plus insert key plus the home key. The 'home' key is also the #7 when the num lock is turned on. Mitch----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field Wow. I turned on the Insert 1 function to hear what this was, but my fingers can't figure out how to do it, even. What *is* this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Hicks" <citsengtwenty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 4:43 AM Subject: Re: what is the hot key for search or forms field CTRL+JAWSKEY+Home on the numberpad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "francis" <francisrwama@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "jfw free lists" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: what is the hot key for search or forms field > hi guys, I want to search for something on the internet, what is the hot > key > to find the form edit field please > visit my website www.francisrwama.com > > > -- > JFW related links: > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > Scripting mailing list: > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > JFW List instructions: > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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