Re: virtualise window in jfw 11

Hi, Chris.

If you read my one-sentence message again, you'll see I get this. As Gary King wrote, my question was, indeed, silly, but as he think he recognized, I meant it rhetorically. FS could have chosen perhaps insert-control-x ("x" is a memorable letter in "index") to avoid potential confusion. I was going to suggest insert-control-i for "index," but that would also be a finger-twister. I have a friend who needed to learn JAWS just this summer, and she's starting with JAWS 10. She's already bewildered by the amount of memorization that many of us on this list take for granted when using JAWS. Now she has to unlearn an established keystroke because FS, in its infinite wisdom, decided another function, word indexing, would have wider use? Then there are creatures of habit, like me, who get used to doing something a certain way and find it distracting to have to change that habit. JAWS's keystrokes really are about habit, and I think FS should keep it in mind when they devise keystrokes.

You gave an excellent explanation in a later message for the value of the word index function. Credit to FS. I'm just urging that they not lose track that JAWS is not as intuitive as many of us have come to think it is.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: virtualise window in jfw 11

Here's the blurb from the what's new in JAWS 11 help. Virtualize Current Window The Virtualize Current Window keystroke is now INSERT+ALT+W. The previous keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+W, is now used for Word Index.

Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 13 November 2009 10:38 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: virtualise window in jfw 11

Silly question, probably, but has FS explained why they changed a familiar keystroke (insert-control-w) for a new one instead of assigning that new combination to the new function?
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary King
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: virtualise window in jfw 11

And if you can think of a key combination that is even less painful than that, you can always go into the Keyboard Manager and ease the pain by changing to it in the Action Menu.

Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Carlson
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: virtualise window in jfw 11

Oops. I guess I'm adding the shift when I don't need to. Okay, slightly less painful.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Verity
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 14:03
Subject: Re: virtualise window in jfw 11

Here it is from the the What's new in Jaws help for version 11.

Virtualize Current Window The Virtualize Current Window keystroke is now INSERT+ALT+W. The previous keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+W, is now used for Word Index.

Virtualize Current Control The Virtualize Current Control keystroke is now INSERT+ALT+SHIFT+W. The previous keystroke was INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+W.

JAWS HELP is a nice resource.

hth

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