Re: verification and jaws
- From: Gene Stevens <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:12:10 -0400
I disagree. If you want to blame someone for the WV problem look to the
users of automated systems that mean to cheat or spam a site. If there were
a more reliable way of blocking them I'm sure most companies would use it.
And just for the record there isn't as far as I know.
Gene
At 10:55 PM 7/31/2005, you wrote:
Hi again. Although I can appreciate what Bruce says with regard to the
difficulty faced by Freedom Scientific in tackling the problem it is one
that must be addressed if blind users are not to be precluded from using
the increasing number of websites employing the technology. Given
Microsoft's professed interest in accessibility, not to mention legal
requirements placed on service providers both here in the United Kingdom
and equally, if not more so in the US they have a duty to ensure that
services are equally available to all. The means whereby they achieve
that, whether by altering the verification proceedure in some way, or
whatever is for them, but address it they must. By "they" I don't
necessarily mean Freedom Scientific. In the final event it may need input
from both Freedom Scientific, MSN, Microsoft and whoever else, but it's a
problem that cannot be ignored.
John.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: verification and jaws
Short of including OCR software in JAWS that is designed to thwart
systems designed to thwart OCR, there's nothing FS can do.
Bruce
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, john coley wrote:
Hi everybody. Does anyone know if Freedom Scientific has any plans to
address the problem of verification graphics? Initially it was just
Yahoo and msn that were using them, but since I've noticed more and more
sites using the same thing. The text you've got to copy into the edit
box is written in a graphic, which Jaws can't see, so without sighted
help it's impossible to do. Granted, in some cases they provide an audio
version, but I've always found it unintelligible. It would be a lot
easier if Jaws were able to see the text written in the graphic so it
could be copied into the edit box.
Hope someone's got an answer,
John.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
To: "jfw list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: verification and jaws
Short of including OCR software in JAWS that is designed to thwart systems designed to thwart OCR, there's nothing FS can do.
Bruce
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, john coley wrote:
Hi everybody. Does anyone know if Freedom Scientific has any plans to address the problem of verification graphics? Initially it was just Yahoo and msn that were using them, but since I've noticed more and more sites using the same thing. The text you've got to copy into the edit box is written in a graphic, which Jaws can't see, so without sighted help it's impossible to do. Granted, in some cases they provide an audio version, but I've always found it unintelligible. It would be a lot easier if Jaws were able to see the text written in the graphic so it could be copied into the edit box.--
Hope someone's got an answer,
John.
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