I have jfw 5.0 and use the advanced verbosity options. When I go to the desktop, for example, jfw says folder view and other info before it actually announces the item such as "my computer". I think I can turn this off in the advance preferences settings but not sure. I tried unchecking control type and also control information but now I seem to have lost the announcing of the item itself but still have all the control info being voiced. I can do a repair and get things back so I'm not worried about that, but can anyone tell me how to get rid of the tree view, folder view, listview, etc., as I really don't need that information. Also, it shows up in braille as well and takes up unnecessary room on the display. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Don -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.