Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:12:04 -0800

No, it's not "about" the same.  It's different. It's originating with the first 
message.  That's what makes it interesting.  Don't you agree?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Flor Lynch 
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


This 'message' business has been going on with earlier versions of JAWS in use 
as well, maybe even as far back as JAWS5, possibly before.  It could be a 
freelists html-to-text conversion thing, as well.  For now, I don't think it a 
JAWS/HTML issue; though possibly the presence [and non-convergence with OE when 
it is used] of Outlook and its html has a role in it.  Heck, it's almost the 
same as Outlook Express putting "Original Message" before the message you're 
replying to.  Anyway, everybody sure gets the 'message'!  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Harmon 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:48 AM
  Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


  I use HTML for my messages in OE.  I believe and can't be certain though 
  that it has something to do with JAWS and the way its now handleing HTML 
  code.  At the top of HTML pages you will see JAWS read the title that is 
  coded into the HTML page.  I suspect that message is the title of OE's HTML 
  coded messages.  But it's really just a guess at this point.

  Rick

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  >From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


  Rick,

  First of all, you said it!  Narrator is no fun to use, at least for me.
  It's really horrible to mess with.  I don't understand half of what it says,
  and I don't know the basic commands for navigating or doing stuff.  So let's
  go, FS, and fix this bug!

  Also, Rick, may as well ask:  That word "message" is at the top of *your*
  every post.  So, then, can you account for its presence?  Do you have
  something in your email program that heads every one of your outgoing
  messages with the word "Message," for some reason?

  Thanks.
  mee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon"
  <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


  MessageAlex,

  I hope FS is able to solve this problem.  It's not always convenient to use
  narrator instead of JAWS.

  Rick

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Alex Stone
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:24 PM
    Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


    Rick, Don't worry about it, I'd have been saying exactly the same things
  as you were if it wasn't me having the problem.
    Cheers.
    Alex
    -----Original Message-----
    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
  Of Rick Harmon
    Sent: 26 November 2006 00:05
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


    lol, its ok, I swore up and down that it wasn't a JAWS issue.  Just think
  how I feel now.

    Rick

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Betsey Doane
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:03 PM
      Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


      Wow--I wrote my post before I saw this; just back from Thanksgiving
  holiday and going through my first pass of over 200 messages :-) Betsey
  Doane



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      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
  Behalf Of Rick Harmon
      Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:58 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


      Well my apologies then, it must be something to do with the way JAWS is
  handleing the keyboard now.  Very puzzleing but if narater worked then it's
  definately a JAWS issue.

      Rick

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Alex Stone
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:27 PM
        Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


        Rick, You are indeed quite correct, doing it with narrator worked a
  treat, and I now have the shortcut key I wanted all along ctrl+shift+j.
        I'll send freedom Scientific a message about it.
        Cheers.
        Alex
        -----Original Message-----
        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
  Behalf Of Rick Harmon
        Sent: 25 November 2006 17:41
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


        Alex,

        Try unloading JAWS 8 with Insert + F4 and using narrator with Windows
  key + U  and see if you can change the properties successfully.  If you can
  then JAWS has something to do with it.  IF not then its something else.

        Rick

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Alex Stone
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:48 AM
          Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


          John, Yes, many many times!
          Cheers.
          Alex
          -----Original Message-----
          From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
  Behalf Of John Brewer
          Sent: 24 November 2006 23:55
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


          Alex have you tried another ShortCut Key?
          John
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Alex Stone
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:13 PM
            Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


            Rick, Have you been following this thread.  I'm sick and tired of
  the number of times I've had to explain that I've checked all the desktop
  icons to make sure nothing has the keystroke assigned to it.  I've also used
  shortcut detective from the jfwlite website to determine that there is no
  shortcut on my system that has the ctrl+shift+j keystroke assigned to it.
            Cheers.
            Alex
            -----Original Message-----
            From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
  Behalf Of Rick Harmon
            Sent: 24 November 2006 22:54
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


            I disagree,  JAWS has absolutely nothing to do with properties on
  a desktop icon.  That is either a MS issue or someone hasn't cleared the
  contro+Alt+j shortcut from another icon on the desktop.

            We can't blame every single issue to JAWS.

            Rick

              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Alex Stone
              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:45 PM
              Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


              Rich, I'm coming to the conclusion as others already have that
  it must be a jaws problem.
              Cheers.
              Alex
              -----Original Message-----
              From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Richard Sherman
              Sent: 24 November 2006 22:38
              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


              Hi Alex,
              Gave it a shot and came up short. Darn. Will give it more
  thought.

              Rich
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Alex Stone
                To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:19 PM
                Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


                Richard, Unfortunately I find that that doesn't work either.
                Cheers.
                Alex



  
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