RE: strange loading and other things

Another thing I notus is that people love to blame there screen reader
for everything.  If they have a problem and jaws stops speaking they
assume that it is a jaws problem.  I had an issue like this the other
day it turned out to be that skype locked up my sound card tighter then
hell.  The only thing I could do was restart the system to get speech
back.  It was odd because the card it locked up was the card used for
speech and the ringing tones and things like that it was not the in and
out card.  It had nothing what so ever to do with jaws.  Remember the
eloquence crashing thing a little while back?  Once again not a jaws
problem but everyone was calling it a jaws bug.  Now for the person in
question it is time for you to back up all your data get the unattended
setup kit and reinstall windows.  I think you will find that after you
do this you will not have any where near the problem you have now.  
Hth 

jim grimsby 
msn: jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx
email:  jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx
skype: jim.grimsby 

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Grimsby
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:00 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: strange loading and other things


Hi, I am now working with jaws 7 and have had no problems what so ever
that I did not have before.  Yes some times when a program stops
responding jaws some times stop speaking this is because the system is
unstable and jaws is not the only program that goes out to lunch.
Windows it self while being the easiest operating system to use is
plagued it self with stability problems.  While ms is working all the
time on fixing these issues there is no way to make a system full proof.
Just like there is no way to make your screen reader full proof.  The
other screen readers have there issues as well.  So the best thing to do
is when you run in to a problem log the problem report it to fs and the
list and see if we can help.   If fs can do some thing about it they
might.  If doing that some thing does not lets say delay them getting
office 12 working or delay getting the next version of windows speaking.
You got to remember there is a fine line between getting the program
with its new features out there for thoughs who want and need the new
features and fixing bugs.   Anyone using Braille is going to tell you
that 7 is so much better.  As far as keeping the load on your cpu down
get a copy of dectalk access32 it will use a lot less cpu time and is
more responsive all the way around.  
Hth 

jim grimsby 
msn: jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx
email:  jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx
skype: jim.grimsby 

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:23 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: strange loading and other things


get off this list then mate jeepers!!!, if FS can't at least get version
7 
working as well as 5.10 was why bother updating and if you don't like us

complaining get off this list!!! as I thought this list is great for
helpful 
hints and complaining about FS...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: strange loading and other things


> One bit of advice for all of you. If you don't like JAWS then don't, 
> freekin, use it! Switch to window-eyes and then all your little 
> problems with Freedom science fiction will be solved. I can't stand 
> whiners! Ok, enough from me.
>
>
>
> At 11:58 AM 11/7/2005, you wrote:
>>Hi Keith
>>
>>What do you mean by single digit versions?  I figure 6.2 is a
>>fraction.
>>Smile.
>>
>>Jean
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:38 AM
>>Subject: Re: strange loading and other things
>>
>>
>>HI,
>>
>>Now I don't want to start another FS flaming session here but every
>>jfw
>>beta tester I have talked to has advised me that one should always
wait 
>>for updates to single digit versions before running them on a machine.

>>that's why I have reverted to running 6.2 instead of 7.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>  ----- Original Message -----  From: Jim
>>  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:27 PM
>>  Subject: Re: strange loading and other things
>>
>>
>>  Oh I am so with you mate, does anyone know if Freedom uncustomer 
>> friendly scientific have any plans for a fix it patch for version 7? 
>> cause when a company goes from 5 to 7 in 2 years probably less than
that 
>> are they rushing versions too quickly and should be concentrating on
>> fixing actual versions up?
>>
>>  One hell of a frustrated Jaws user lately,
>>
>>  Jim from Oz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    ----- Original Message -----    From: Sun Sparkle
>>    To: Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    Cc: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:11 PM
>>    Subject: strange loading and other things
>>
>>
>>    when i am using jaws 7.0 i have some strange things happen my
>> outlook
>> express will come up with out me doing anything also i get windows 
>> explorer crashs, and a focus problem also it seems that jaws is
loading 
>> differently then the other versions of jaws i have on here i went
back to 
>> 6.2 and everything seems to be ok, but wonder why jaws 7.0 is being a

>> brat like this freedom scientific tech support/eric i know you are on
the 
>> one list i would be really glad if you could fix your problems with
jaws 
>> 7.0 thank you  why do you have so many bugs in your product? just
>> wondering the other screen readers i have used including window eyes
dont 
>> have the problems jaws has. please please please please fix it!
>>
>>
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