Hello, Soronel. This machine is talking again. I was able to finally get the video intercept to install. I thought I had done it before but something must have happened.I still have this intermittent issue, where JAWS will speak on a message and then won't. But that is once in awhile.
I am getting a new desktop and see about starting over. This machine is so messed up with I don't' know what all. But maybe if I have one that I can depend on, I can fool with this and see if I can get some of the issues to work.
What had happened, maybe someone can comment, is this.I had followed an idea from someone, not on this list that perhaps my machine was just so slow and so on because of out of date drivers. So I went and purchased a program called DriverFinder. It scans your pc, finds all the installed drivers and identifies the out of date drivers and then when you hit the Fix button it goes and downloads all the newer drivers.
It found 111 drivers, and there were 12 out of date. Well, this DriverFinder program was maybe was more harm then help.One of the drivers was a new video driver, and when I installed it, then I got the pop up dialog from JAWS about the video intercept, asking to install it, to display it or to uninstall it. So seeing it was not installed, at first I just would hit Escape and I thought JAWS worked, but really it was not reading many many things. So what I did today was to roll back and restore that earlier driver, and then install the video intercept. So now I'm back to where I was before.
Does that make any sense? Thanks. And thanks for your suggestions.It sounds like some of you think that to use the tandem with Freedom Scientific is a really good thing. Does some of these problems I have cited on this list sound like the kind of help that would get this machine back on track?
Rik -------------------------------------------------- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:06 AM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re: sometimes JAWS speaks, sometimes JAWS is mum, and how come? re: Windows Live Mail with JAWS 10.1154
I would suggest running the Video Intercept Manager (it's in the Tools group under JAWS Version in the Start menu) first and at least trying the install option before uninstalling and reinstalling. On 2/15/10, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Rik,On that particular machine, it sounds to me like your video intercept is notinstalled. IF that is the case, then it is likely the problem.All I can personally suggest is to completely uninstall your copy of JAWS 10and then install it again clean.If that doesn't work, or you'd like some reassurance, have FS Tech Supporton the line when you do this. 727 806-8600 Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik James" <Ohio1803@xxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 15:22Subject: Re: sometimes JAWS speaks, sometimes JAWS is mum, and how come? re:Windows Live Mail with JAWS 10.1154 Hello. My problem has continued with the JAWS intermittent silent treatment. I am afraid I have not been able to monitor all the email traffic. My issue was really to do with all of my computers and not just the one. But this one I am on today is the worst, and sometimes I am just totally without any reading of text with speech. The menus will talk but not the text.Right now as I write, no key echo. Up and down arrow, no speech. Yet I canuse say ALT and the numpad 5 key and hear the sentence I just typed. But try and do word by word with JAWS key plus 4 or 6? Oh the silence.. I have been using JAWS since early 1990s, and this kind of stuff has never occurred. Maybe it is not even JAWS?The list and folder view may work and then it may not. Just crazy. I may just have to dump this whole pc and start from scratch, I'm so fed up. ButI'm also not to flush with cash. So what to do.But here to answer Dave's question of does the problem clear up with ALT -TAB around the answer is sometimes yes. But sometimes no. And even more curiously and I have no idea if this is connected, but sometimes ALT plusTAB does not even work. I sometimes have to do Windows Key plus M to go to Desktop and then TAB to the task bar to get to the other running programs.Now.Someone, maybe Dave had said that perhaps my issue has to do with the videointercept. This whole video intercept business is something I have never quite understood about. I just have only such much good smarts, I guess. But here is what I did. I copied this from my JAWS intercept manager. I don't' know what it all means. If one of you does, maybe you can help. You may write me off list if you like. Here is the text copied from my video intercept in JAWS... Status: Video Intercept is not installed. Primary Display Adapter: 64MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with TV Out (Dell) NVIDIA Corporation nv4_disp.dll 6.14.10.9132 Video Chain Information: nv4_disp I have JAWS 11, but have not installed it on this system. I am using version 10.1154. I suspect the newer version will not clear up this mess, though. All sympathy cards and helpful hints welcomed. Thanks. Rik -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 12:20 PM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: Re: sometimes JAWS speaks, sometimes JAWS is mum, and how come? re:Windows Live Mail with JAWS 10.1154Does it clear if you Alt-Tab out, and then back in? Sometimes I've noticed that other applications in the background, like Windows Media Player or WinAmp can cause reading to stop in the foreground.Also if there's a background window that pops up like Anti-Virus, it couldbe silent, invisible, but still interfering. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik James" <Ohio1803@xxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:34 Subject: sometimes JAWS speaks, sometimes JAWS is mum, and how come? re: Windows Live Mail with JAWS 10.1154 Well, maybe this does not happen with JAWS 11.Maybe it does not happen with the latest update available with version 10. But seeing as it has been happening with all my systems where I have JAWS installed, I tought I would post this before I install the newer versions.But darned if I can figure it out. While using the email with the Windows Live Mail program, for awhile I will be using my JAWS to read email with no problems. And then without any discernible reason, JAWS will no longer read the text in the email message.It will continue to read the title of the message and navigate up and down through or tabbing between the list view and folder view and speak plainly enough. But not the text. Up arrow, down arrow, nothing, just quiet. Nowif I select all text with CTRL + A, then JAWS will read all of that selected text.I thought perhaps this might be the plain text versus the rich text of theparticular message. But no. When JAWS decides she will not speak the message, this occurs with both types of email messages. She just goes mum. So, how come? Hope someone may have an ideer. And that my description may help one of you folks to have an AHA moment. Thanks. Rik -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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