Re: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0

  • From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:29:00 -0700

It only seems to make a difference when something from a webpage is crashing my
system.  Eloquence can't be revived whereas my bns usually gives me speach.  I
actually think eloquence runns faster then my bns on my 400MHZ system.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS
6.0


Yes; and they do use some processor time.  The question is that on
todays systems, which usually have plenty of processor speed and RAM,
does that really make any difference?

Now, I know that it does from reports on AT&T Natural Voices
specifically, but I was wondering about Eloquence.

Thanks.

Chip

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:00 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: software vs. hardware synthesizers - was - Re: Bug=20
> Fixes in JAWS 6.0
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> Software synths take up more RAM than hardware ones do.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
>=20
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> Well, no argument with your first point, it is more difficult to have
> all of the sound coming out of one source; but, when you need to use
> headphones so as not to disturb someone else, it's also more=20
> convenient.
>=20
> As for your second, that just seems to come down to personal=20
> preference
> as it doesn't bother me a bit.
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> There is one which you didn't mention, but which I've always wondered
> about, and that's how much of a load does Eloquence place on=20
> your system
> by having the software synth as compared to sending the text to be
> spoken out of the serial port?  Anyone have any facts along this line?
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> Thanks.
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> Chip
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> =3D20
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 2:04 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >=3D20
> > Hello  Chip. I despise software synthesizers mainly because=3D20
> > if you are required to listen to other media, I find it to=3D20
> > difficult to with a software synthesizer coming through the=3D20
> > same speakers. I also dislike elloquence's voice, *all of them*
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > I'm interested in hearing why, as I use a DT express at work,=3D20
> > and eloquence at home, and really haven't felt there's much=3D20
> > difference.
> > Perhaps there's just something I'm missing?
> >=3D20
> > Thanks.
> >=3D20
> > Chip
> >=3D20
> > =3D3D20
> >=3D20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kerri
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 AM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Chris, I vehemently despise software synthesizers hence=3D20
> > my=3D3D20  dectalk=3D20
> > >use and this is the only version that has been rather=3D3D20=20
>  sluggish.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > man I guess I'm very lucky then. This version actually runs =
a=3D3D20
> =3D20
> > >little faster on my system than 5.10 did. Then again=20
> I'm=3D3D20  using
> =3D
> a=3D20
> > >hardware synthesizer which is probably the reason.=3D3D20  =
Never=3D20
> > did like=3D20
> > >software speech and never will based on what=3D3D20  I've=20
> seen.  By the
> =3D
>=20
> > >way, the murge feature is there. go to=3D3D20  your jaws=20
> window with =3D
> alt=3D20
> > >plus j, press alt u for utilities,=3D3D20  and it's in=20
> there. or simply
> =3D
>=20
> > >bring up the context menu if=3D3D20  you're running jaws in =
the=3D20
> > system tray=3D20
> > >and go to utilities=3D3D20  and the murge utility is there.
> > >=3D3D20
> > > At 04:29 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote:
> > > >Hay, you mean, they haven't fixed any right? I'm sorry, I=3D3D20
> > > just couldn't=3D3D20
> > > >resist. In truth, this has been the worst version I've=20
> had the=3D3D20
> =3D
>=20
> > > >misfortune to deal with in a long while. It runs=20
> terribley slow,=3D20
> > > >I'm=3D3D20 getting false attachments, no merge feature=20
> anywhere. I=3D20
> > > >love=3D3D20
> > > spending=3D3D20
> > > >money on this "improved" product. Sorry, I'm being a grinch.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:16 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >You are looking right, there just isn't any bugs.
> > > >Smiling here.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> > > >To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 4:15 PM
> > > >Subject: Bug Fixes in JAWS 6.0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Good Afternoon,
> > > > >
> > > > >     I had a migraine when JAWS 6.0 was released and=20
> am trying=3D20
> > > > > to=3D3D20 catch up with list mail before installing the new =
=3D
> release.
> > > > >
> > > > >     I've looked over the What's New section for 6.0 and=3D3D20
> > > could swear=3D3D20
> > > > > that there used to be a section on bug fixes, but I'm =
not=3D3D20
> > > finding it=3D3D20
> > > > > for this version.  Am I having another senior moment, =
or=3D3D20
> > > did FS not=3D3D20
> > > > > do it this time, or am I looking in the wrong place on=3D3D20
> > > the FS site? =3D3D20
> > > > > I've been looking at:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws60f
> > > ea.asp#JAW
> > > >S_Features
> > > > >
> > > > >     Thanks,
> > > > > Margaret
> > > > > iluvtoread@xxxxxxx
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