Re: safe mode?
- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:19:48 -0800
actually, no you don't, you can run any application with the run dialog box, and the sound drivers not being loaded can be bypassed with the use of a pair of USB headphones and, though this one hasn't been tested, quite possibly with a USB sound card, I know that when I plug my external sound card in everything running or not (though I would start jaws after plugging the sound card in, just in case, but on my computers the external sound card takes over no matter what was running and/or when it was turned on so, this will take care of this. (post oops, sort of!) another line to reinvestigate: , now remember this was way back prior to millennium coming out, but in the win 98 days, doss drivers would run an external synthesizer. I even had some access to my bios using both jaws for dos, a bit of medaling with the drivers loading and a external hardware synthesizer... and a tech friend of mine from over the pond and way up north also devised a simple set of applications and a small tool that would hand start the drivers for the sound card if you knew what they were, and would then start jaws manually, and it worked. the problem now a days is I am having a heck of a time finding the command line code to load drivers anymore! if you can load sound drivers, it would be possible to have jaws in safe mode, ach, ok, correction you could have limited jaws in safe mode due to the minimal video drivers used in that mode, but still you could hear/see something. hmmmm, has anyone tried NVDA with either USB headphones or a USB sound card? that may work better than the minimal jaws you'd get in SM. HTH, elf Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Lange To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: safe mode? Hi, You wrote: Hello everyone. Always been curious about this. What does everyone else do when the computer needs to be booted into safe mode? I can't boot my machines into safe mode without sighted assistance. I How come after all these years there isn't a way to get speech in this all-important area? Seems kind of insane...or am I missing some magic solution that should be obvious? No, I don't think so. When you boot into safe mode, your machine loads only the essential drivers, and those don't include drivers for audio devices, unfortunately. Some years ago, I saw a machine in safe mode drive a serially-attached Dectalk synthesizer with a version of Window-Eyes, but it couldn't be done with JAWS at the time. Thinking about this issue raises an interesting question. Since USB drivers are loaded in safe mode for keyboards, mice and so on, I wonder if it would be possible for FS to develop a safe driver that could be used with a USB-attached hardware synthesizer, or, if you could use a USB sound device and use Eloquence or other software synthesizers with it. That would be really cool. I just don't have the technical knowledge to determine if something like that is feasible. Until then, I just have to find somebody with working eyeballs to help me out when booting a machine into safe mode. Tom
- Re: safe mode?
- From: JM Casey
- Re: safe mode?