That's what I was sort of thinking. James, List Admin _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom Sent: April 23, 2009 4:13 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: request 4 help with RDP I suspect that jaws can only be used with the rdp and citrix because jaws adds it own dll to the rdp chain and I think it is the same for citrix. Regards Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail <mailto:tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> tom.bissett@xxxxxxx _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:09 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: request 4 help with RDP VNC operates on the same principle as RDP, meaning it displays the other computer in much the same way; by use of an image or periodic screenshot being displayed on your own screen. JAWS will nave just as little interaction with that. The only difference is, I'm not sure if its remote access option will support VNC, or if it's just to be used with RDP. James, List Admin _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ahmed Sent: April 23, 2009 1:02 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: request 4 help with RDP Hi Tom; VNC is a remote desktop software, another alternative to RDP; YOu can get more information on it by going to this URL http://www.realvnc.com/ I have not yet used it but it was another alternative to RDP if RDP did not work for me; Also Below is some help for whoever want to run Jaws with RDP Client side: First install jaws on the client machine and make sure it has remote access enabled; You can go to INSERT+J AND THEN ABOUT AND "IT WILL SAY REMOTE ENABLED"; Second go to the insert+j and then basic and then advance; then check the Check Try Remote Access Speech on startup and also Check Try Remote Access Braille on startup (if you want braille support) Check Use Authorization from PAC Mate (if you have it) Check Enable Remote Access Client(you must check it or otherwise no speach) Check Enable Remote Access Server (Check it if you want your version of jaws on server to look for the authorization) When checked, JAWS can search for product updates. Server side: Then connect to the server using MSTSC in the start menue+run and type MSTSC after giving the server IP address and the user name and password insert the jaws cd and then type in the run dialogue box d:\JawsVersion.exe /remote then it will run the usual jaws setup staff and then install typical and then next; However, if you need to avoid the setup questions you can do / SilentServer and it will install without any promt; Then do not follow jaws because it will ask you to reboot the server;(in my case it did and I just ignored it) then jaws will run normally and if it asks you to activate just unload it and reload it Because it will be activated by the client authorazation; If any one has problem you can email me and good luck with RDP experiences; ----- Original Message ----- From: Bissett, <mailto:tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> Tom To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: RE: request 4 help with RDP Hi Ahmed, VNC? I guess not. What exactly is it? Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail <mailto:tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> tom.bissett@xxxxxxx _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ahmed Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:09 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: request 4 help with RDP Hi Tom ! thanks for the feedback; But have you used VNC to remotely connect! if yes how did jaws work? Thanks in advance as always! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bissett, <mailto:tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> Tom To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: RE: request 4 help with RDP Hi Ahmed, unfortunately you need to install jaws on the servers as well as your workstation. There is no work around. I work in a similar environment where I need to access servers in this way. Having to reboot them can be an issue. Also we have been moving to ESX virtual servers and jaws won't run on them. Jaws keeps crashing the virtual servers. It is becoming a real problem. Depending of what kind of work you need to do on the server. For troubleshooting I will often map to the servers drives and retrieve log files. Also if you map to the server C drive you can then access the windows event logs through the event viewer on your work station. So there are some things you can do without remoting into the server but it is limited. Regards Tom Bissett BMO Financial Group Technology and Operations Integrated Client Solutions Tel: (416) 549-6514 E-Mail <mailto:tom.bissett@xxxxxxx> tom.bissett@xxxxxxx _____ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ahmed Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:56 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: request 4 help with RDP Hi their! I am using Version Jaws 9.0.2169 pro with XP pro; I am trying to connect to several servers to maintain them via Microsoft Remote desktop (RDP) It says in the jaws documentation that I need to install jaws on the server machine; and I have all ready have jaws on my client machine; Therefore my question is that I do not want to install jaws on every server that I am maintaining and it is not visible to reboot the server after I install jaws! so what can I do and is their any other way of actually getting RDP working with jaws without installing jaws on the server? Thanks in advance as always!