Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
- From: "Brandon B" <serrebi101@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:23:40 -0800
I really hate how blind pardon the pun that some people can be on this
matter.
There are more cracks now that jaws went to an ilm scheme. There was way way
less around when they hada quella auth. IT took quite a bit of work to copy
a quela disk because of how the disk was layed out and not that I have ever
done it, but I've seen how it was done, it wasn't worth the time. To the
people who do the cracking, ILM=worth cracking. FS could use some sort of
encryption scheme to allow you to back up your liscence so in my eyes this
is a violation of fare use. Although the fact that they seem to reset the
authorization without any hastle might shield them from anything. I own a
copy of jaws and frankly I like to support the people that make the
accessibility happen.
brandon
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
Hi,
They do have both and ask no questions what so ever when you write or call
for a reset. I honestly do not know why this seems to be so unfair to
others here. I've done it several times without a problem.
The reason we don't have the floppy disk license anymore is because of
pirateing of JAWS. With ILM this is much harder and perhaps impossible.
If
people didn't steal all the time then perhaps FS wouldn't have to resort
to
this kind of thing, but people steal and they have to protect themselvs
whether we like it or not.
Rick
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
I thought FS had a way to reset the key over the web? Or at least some
other
way then by calling them. I was extactic when they came out with a flash
version of jaws till I learned this didn't mean you could put the
authorization
on the flash drive. Of course I think if jaws is for greater access, they
shouldn't have an authorization scheme at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
I actually have done that. But when my keys get down to one I know to
call
FS. if that is on the weekend then I wait till monday. I understand his
gripe but still one needs to know the rules of the product they are
using.
Rick
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
I can see where he's coming from... I suppose if you want something
without
this problem, you'll have to get a dongle, for $45.
From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:28:08 -0600
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
For one thing, it's not a problem. It's by design.
It's a problem for me! I don't care if it's by design.
My CD-ROM dies and instead of just being able to swap it out, I have to
call
FS and get reauthorized? That's bogus. Why would I care if it's a bug or
by
design
For a second thing,
if you're going to be using it, you'd darned well better read up on it.
Who says?
An authorization scheme that requires you to study it is itself a defect.
I'm a professional programmer. And I consider it a failure on my part
every
time I have to explain how to use one of my programs. Sometimes it's
impossible to have things simple enough that they need no explanation.
But
I
haven't had to study the authorization scheme for any other software I've
ever licensed. I don't lose my Windows XP authorization when i swap out a
CD-ROM drive.
Third, whether you or anyone else thinks it's stupid is irrelevant, this
is the way it is. Ranting and stamping your foot isn't going to change
First of all, I'm not "ranting" nor am I "stamping my foot". I'm stating
my
opinion just as you are stating yours.
If you're questioning why I'm talking about it on this list, well, it
came
up. Why are you talking about it?
But more importantly, this is how things get changed. They certainly
won't
change if nobody complains. I told FS that I found their authorization
scheme unacceptable. I did them a favor in doing so.
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Hi, They do have both and ask no questions what so ever when you write or call for a reset. I honestly do not know why this seems to be so unfair to others here. I've done it several times without a problem. The reason we don't have the floppy disk license anymore is because ofpirateing of JAWS. With ILM this is much harder and perhaps impossible. If people didn't steal all the time then perhaps FS wouldn't have to resort to
this kind of thing, but people steal and they have to protect themselvs whether we like it or not. Rick ======= Visit my webpage at www.blind-geek-zone.net Here you will find Audio tutorials for popular programs, blindness related web links, blind mailing list links and documents for various things.----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later I thought FS had a way to reset the key over the web? Or at least some other way then by calling them. I was extactic when they came out with a flash version of jaws till I learned this didn't mean you could put the authorization on the flash drive. Of course I think if jaws is for greater access, they shouldn't have an authorization scheme at all.----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
I actually have done that. But when my keys get down to one I know to callFS. if that is on the weekend then I wait till monday. I understand hisgripe but still one needs to know the rules of the product they are using.Rick ======= Visit my webpage at www.blind-geek-zone.netHere you will find Audio tutorials for popular programs, blindness relatedweb links, blind mailing list links and documents for various things.----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later I can see where he's coming from... I suppose if you want something without this problem, you'll have to get a dongle, for $45. From: "John Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:28:08 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: removing authorization key, putting it back laterFor one thing, it's not a problem. It's by design.It's a problem for me! I don't care if it's by design. My CD-ROM dies and instead of just being able to swap it out, I have to call FS and get reauthorized? That's bogus. Why would I care if it's a bug or by designFor a second thing, if you're going to be using it, you'd darned well better read up on it.Who says? An authorization scheme that requires you to study it is itself a defect. I'm a professional programmer. And I consider it a failure on my part every time I have to explain how to use one of my programs. Sometimes it'simpossible to have things simple enough that they need no explanation. ButI haven't had to study the authorization scheme for any other software I've ever licensed. I don't lose my Windows XP authorization when i swap out a CD-ROM drive.Third, whether you or anyone else thinks it's stupid is irrelevant, this is the way it is. Ranting and stamping your foot isn't going to changeFirst of all, I'm not "ranting" nor am I "stamping my foot". I'm stating my opinion just as you are stating yours.If you're questioning why I'm talking about it on this list, well, it cameup. Why are you talking about it?But more importantly, this is how things get changed. They certainly won'tchange if nobody complains. I told FS that I found their authorization scheme unacceptable. I did them a favor in doing so. -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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- Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
- From: Blake Sinnett
- Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
- From: Rick Harmon
- Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
- From: Sean McMahon
- Re: removing authorization key, putting it back later
- From: Rick Harmon