Actually, I think it confuses things a bit. The icon your left with if you do that is the one I described which is used for visual notification of new email. If you choose the "hide when minimized" option, and you've chosen to not show this notification icon in the systray, then you'll have nothing at all to see when outlook is minimized. You're not minimizing the window to the systray, you're just hiding the window, while allowing the notification icon (which briefly changes to an envelope when you've got new email) to show. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:32 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: outlook; was misc settings in office 2003 with jfw9? Hi, actually in Outlook 2003 you can minimize the programme to the system tray. Well, what happens when you open Outlook is that an icon will appear both in the taskbar and the systray by default. If you right click the systray icon, arrow to hide when minimized and press enter, Outlook will only show an icon in the systray. Hope that helps. -- Why not join my Blind Hobbyist group? To join, send a blank message to blind-hobbyist-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Thanks, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:21 PM Subject: RE: outlook; was misc settings in office 2003 with jfw9? Hi Dave, It's a great deal more preferable if you wouldn't list many questions in a single email, but put each one in it's own email so that discussion threads can start on each topic. I'll do that here and answer just the outlook question. Outlook does not minimize to the systray, but it does have a component which will appear in the systray for a visual notification of new emails. It actually has 4 possible actions it can take when new email arrives, and 3 of them are visual, and so you probably want to turn those off. In outlook, choose the tools menu and the options choice. In the options dialog you'll begin in the preferences tab; choose the email options button, and in the email options dialog that opens, choose the advanced email options button. Finally, in here you'll find the 4 options which are check boxes of what outlook can do when new email arrives. The first is to play a sound, and you probably want that checked. The next 3 are to change the mouse pointer, change an icon in the systray, and make an alert appear on the desktop. You'll probably want to uncheck these 3. ok your way out of all these dialogs and you should have it as you want. hth, Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:07 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: misc settings in office 2003 with jfw9? Hello, I'm using jfw9 and office 2003, the two apps in this email message are word and outlook. My issues are separate, but I'm having jfw speaking for both. In outlook, and this only occurs on this computer, not on another so I believe it is a setting, when I minimize or close outlook I get it listed in my systray, this Is not what I want. When I minimize I'd like outlook to be in my taskbar, and when I close I'd like outlook to close, period. I remember flipping some setting that made this work, but can't remember where it is, any assistance? Now for word, I open up either a blank document or a word doc with text in it. In either case I want to insert a header or footer. Previously in office 2k and jfw5 I'd do this and the dialogs would speak, indicating where I am, either in the header or footer. In 2003 I go to view, headers and footers, and I'm in some kind of what looks like an onscreen dialog, but no feedback. Tabbing doesn't get me to the footer dialog if I'm in fact in the header one. Any suggestions, is there a jfw tweak? Oh, and what is this Microsoft Office Customer Improvement program icon? Any idea how to stop it? Thanks. Dave.