RE: number of messages

  • From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:34:25 -0400

Hello, Cy. For advanced, intermediate or beginner in JAWS 11 or earlier, I
go to the  config manager with insert-6, alt-s, then arrow down to verbosity
options. In fact, after alt-s, you can just press v and you'll find yourself
not only in that group of choices, but on the part where you arrow up or
down for your verbosity level. 

Now I'm going there to see if Tom's beginner setting speaks the number of
messages in an Outlook folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:12 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: number of messages

Damn, sure would help if I really read the messages. (LOLLOLLOLLOL) By
golly, use the correct keystrokes and it works. Hmm?
Cy, The anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:02 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: number of messages

Insert plus v.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: RE: number of messages
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03-16-2011 15:51

Dave,
Okay, When I press insert+j I do get to the JAWS menu. When I press "U" I
get "tandom".
I have JAWS 11.0.1467, W7 64 bit, Office 2007 Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:40 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: number of messages

Cy,

When in Outlook, Insert+V for the options. Then press "U" to get to User
verbosity. Spacebar to change. Enter to save.


Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 15:24
Subject: RE: number of messages


Dave,
You are not going to believe this - but - I can not find the settings for
basic, intermediate or advanced. (LOLLOLLOL) I have looked everywhere I can
think of. Any hints?
W7 64 bit, JAWS 11 latest build
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:58 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: number of messages

Cy,

Are you working with JAWS set to advanced verbosity, by any chance? If so,
try beginner to see if that speaks more information.

Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 14:55
Subject: RE: number of messages


Hi Adrian,
Well my good friend, it is like this:
I gave your method of moving messages a shot and, yes, it did move the
message but, oh woe is me, there was nary a word about message number or
anything else except the folder name and the number of messages in the
target folder.
W7 64 bit, office 2007, JAWS 11.
Cy, The (emotionally destroyed) Anasazi (LOLLLOOLLOLLOL) -----Original
Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:52 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: number of messages

Dave,

Cy is more than capable of speaking for himself, but I read his message
differently from the way you do. I think like you and me, and probably
everyone else, he'd like to know where he is in the message list--xxx of
yyy, as you put it. However, if you're right in your interpretation, it
happens I have a solution.

When I decide to move a message from one folder to another, I press
control-shift-v and arrow or letter down to the target folder. When JAWS
speaks the folder name, it also indicates its xxx in the yyy of folders.

I know of no other way to get JAWS to verbalize this information in Outlook,
and no way at all to get it to do so for the files within a folder. I will
try Tom's beginner setting later.

Anyway, talk about workaround!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:43 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: number of messages

Cy,

I'm just curious as to why you need to know the xxx of yyy information in
the folder view. Since I use first-letter navigation to find folders,I've
never wanted to know where in the overall list a particular folder resides.

Am I missing a particular "neat trick" that helps us by knowing that
information?

Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:53
Subject: RE: number of messages


Adrian,
On my HP, W7 64 bit, JAWS 11, Office 2007 the insert+numpad 3 gives me the
number of messages in the folder.
I really do wish I could find "where" in the folder I am such as 135 of 402.
Insert+tab only gives me what insert+ up arrow does, no numbers.
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:39 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: number of messages

Two thoughts for how to obtain this information.

First, I just tried this on Outlook 2003 and it worked. While at the message
list in a folder, switch to the JAWS cursor and go to the bottom line. Here
the number of messages is read.

2. This doesn't work on my machine, but since insert-3 has stopped working
on yours, maybe the change makes this one work instead. Insert-tab ought to
tell you not only the number of messages in a folder, but also where you're
positioned on that list. I wish this worked here.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mark
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:28 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: number of messages

Running Jaws 12 with outlook 2007.
I use to hit insert numpad 3 to hear amount of messages in the folder I was
in.
Now it does not work.
All I changed was the scheme. It has been changed back, but insert does not
work.
Any helpful suggestions?

Mark

Seduce my mind and you can have my body. Find my soul and I am yours
forever.


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