Jerry, I don't know. The keyboard help explanation doesn't seem to jibe with what the keystroke actually does. The keyboard help description says "says the current window and the associated prompt label." Well, maybe I don't understand what that description is meant to include, but when I press Insert Tab on the listing of a closed message in my inbox, it just tells me mostly what I already know: The sender, the subject line, and the position in the list, though Jaws doesn't always say the position in a list anymore as it used to. Maybe there's something in configuration manager I forgot to set that makes it do this. But anyway, I don't Oh, and it also says that to move among the items in the list I should use my arrow keys. Like, duhh. I don't get it. How come you have a liking for this command? Seriously. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: new update Turn your keyboard help on with insert 1. Now hold down insert and hit tab. Try it, you'll like it. In OE, if you use that on a message in the list view, it will tell where that message is in the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:42 AM Subject: Re: new update Jerry, it's not Insert Tab, or at least I don't recognize that key combo. If I want to read the header fields in your message to which I'm replying, I press the alt key in combination with 1, 2, 3, and so forth. What is this key combination of Insert and Tab? I just pressed it and nothing was spoken at all. I've never pressed it before, and also I'm not using the update version, just the first update version 8.0.243 or whatever it's called. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: new update It seems that Jaws key tab to read the current window has fallen by the wayside under the update, v. 8.0.1163, and now the field labels, if that is what they are called for subject, to, cc, etc., for this message are not reading. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/707 - Release Date: 3/1/2007 2:43 PM -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/707 - Release Date: 3/1/2007 2:43 PM -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx