RE: music downloading programs and jaws

Yes, you're right, thanks.  So far, I haven't yet found a way to get at
it except via the jaws cursor, but now that I know it's there, I'll
start working on it.

It's very strange in that when I reply, it's not shown in the quoted
message below (at least, using outlook).

Thanks again,

Chip



Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cy
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:41 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: music downloading programs and jaws
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> Chip,
> I use Microbloat Outlook, JAWS 5.0, XP Home.
> Now, when I open a JFW message, go to the top, switch to JAWS=20
> cursor and
> up arrow I can see the senders address.
> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: music downloading programs and jaws
>=20
>=20
> Yes, if you mean you know of torrent tracker sites, yes I=20
> would like to
> know about them (my email address is at the bottom of my messages).
>=20
> I can't let you know off list because the way this list is setup, it
> doesn't show me your email address.
>=20
> If you mean you have torrent files, thanks, but without a tracker site
> to arrange the transfer, they just can't get from you to me!!!
>=20
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
>=20
> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (850) 413-6314
>=20
>  =3D20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 =20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> >On Behalf Of chevelle
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:25 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: music downloading programs and jaws
> >=3D20
> > Hi Chip, thanks for that info. Do you use a lot of different=3D20 =20
> >torrents? If=3D20  you want some more torrent sites let me=20
> know off list.
>=20
> >I have=3D20  a few that I=3D20
> > use, and I can share them with you if you like.
> > ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:58 AM
> > Subject: RE: music downloading programs and jaws
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > > Sure, you can get info and a download of it at:
> > >
> > > http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > > Just to clarify a point, it's torrents aren't any=3D20
> > different, it's just a
> > > different client the way NetScape is a different http web browser.
> > >
> > > Anyone setting up to use ABC should note that I don't like=3D20
> > some of the
> > > default options; for instance, the default action when=20
> choosing to=20
> > > download a new torrent file is to do nothing (stop is=20
> what ABC calls
>=20
> > > it).  You may want to go into the options and change that=3D20
> > to queue.  You
> > > may also want to specify a default download directory so=3D20
> > that it doesn't
> > > keep asking you each time.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, the idea is to start ABC running, then use your=3D20
> > web browser
> > > to find a tracker web site which also provides torrent files (=20
> > > http://demonoid.com is a free site for this), and then find=3D20
> > a torrent
> > > file to download.  Once you click it to download it, your=3D20
> > browser will
> > > give the info to ABC, and ABC will get it for you as soon=20
> as it can.
> > >
> > > How soon it can, and how fast it can, is quite variable,=3D20
> > and depends in
> > > part on how popular the file is.
> > >
> > > To be a good BitTorrent citizen, you should keep your pc=20
> online and=20
> > > running with ABC even when you're done downloading, as you=3D20
> > then become
> > > the server for someone to download from.  This means=20
> don't move or=20
> > > delete the files you've downloaded as ABC needs to be able=3D20
> > to find them
> > > where it put them.
> > >
> > > Hth,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chip Orange
> > > Database Administrator
> > > Florida Public Service Commission
> > >
> > > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > (850) 413-6314
> > >
> > > =3D3D20
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 =20
> > >>[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chevelle
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:38 AM
> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: Re: music downloading programs and jaws
> > >>=3D3D20
> > >> Hi chip, do you know how I can get this abc torrent? I=20
> use a=3D3D20 =20
> > >>couple of=3D3D20  torrents myself, but never heard of the abc=20
> > >>torrents.
> > >> ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
> > >> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:58 AM
> > >> Subject: RE: music downloading programs and jaws
> > >>=3D3D20
> > >>=3D3D20
> > >> > All of this is true.
> > >> >
> > >> > However, if you can get a downloading program (not=3D3D20
> > >> necessarily used for =3D3D3D
> > >> > illegal sharing of music files) which is open source, =
and=3D3D20
> > >> therefore can =3D3D3D
> > >> > be inspected by many programmers for any such unwanted=3D3D20
> > >> activities, you =3D3D3D
> > >> > could come a lot closer to something for nothing.
> > >> >
> > >> > BitTorrent is such a protocol, and the ABC BitTorrent =
free=3D3D20
> > >> client is =3D3D3D
> > >> > quite accessible by jfw.
> > >> >
> > >> > It's a little difficult to learn at first, as you have =
to=3D3D20
> > >> learn about =3D3D3D
> > >> > torrent files, trackers, etc., but once you get on to =
it,=3D3D20
> > >> it works quite =3D3D3D
> > >> > well, and never has any unwanted side effects.
> > >> >
> > >> > There have been several articles, in such mainstream =
mags=3D3D20
> > >> as Discover, =3D3D3D
> > >> > lately which have promoted torrents as the downloading=3D3D20
> > >> protocol of the =3D3D3D
> > >> > future.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Chip Orange
> > >> > Database Administrator
> > >> > Florida Public Service Commission
> > >> >
> > >> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > (850) 413-6314
> > >> >
> > >> > =3D3D3D20
> > >> >
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 =20
> > >> >>[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frankie V.
> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:08 AM
> > >> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> Subject: RE: music downloading programs and jaws =3D3D3D20
> > >> >> I hate to be the bearer of bad news here but consider=20
> the=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> following statement - "there is no such thing as a =
free=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> lunch". Now how does this apply to music downloading=3D20
> > services=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> you ask. These companies are in the business of making=3D20
> > money=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> obviously. The way they do that is to sell ad space =
to=3D3D3D20=20
> > >> >> advertisers. These ads come in the form of trojans and=3D20
> > adware=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> and spyware that you have agreed to accept in the fine=3D20
> > print=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> of the sign up contract. This is a serious problem for =3D
> JAWS=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> users because much of this spyware or adware can affect =3D
> how=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> JAWS will automatically load and sometimes outright =3D
> prevent=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> JAWS from loading. This is the case with one of the=20
> most=3D3D3D20=20
> > >> >> incidious pieces of spyware called "targetsaver".=20
> Being=3D3D3D20=20
> > >> >> infected by that one can and most probably will =
either=3D3D3D20=20
> > >> >> completely prevent JAWS from loading at startup or turn=3D20
> > JAWS=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> loading into a process that can be measured on a=3D20
> > sundial. One=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> other note to mention is that if you live in the U.S.=3D20
> > Much of=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> the music that is available for download i  s=3D20
> > copyrighted and=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> may be a violation of copyright laws if you upload it.=3D20
> > To be=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> perfectly honest I have not found any place to buy=20
> music=3D3D3D20
>=20
> > >> >>online (ITunes, Rhapsody, etc) that is completely JAWS=3D3D3D20 =
=20
> > >> >>friendly. From a blind standpoint putting in the order=20
> at=3D3D3D20
>=20
> > >> >>Amazon and waiting for the CD to arrive at my doorstep=20
> is=3D3D3D20
>=20
> > >> >>still the most viaable solution.  Frank
> > >> >>=3D3D3D20
> > >> >>=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> .From: "Arm=3D3D3DE1ndo"<armando@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> .Sent: 4/24/05 2:25:12 PM
> > >> >> .To: "jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> .Subject: music downloading programs and jaws .
> > >> >> .Hello Listers,
> > >> >> . Recently, I have encounterd a problem with KazaaLite. =3D
> My=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> laptop received a trogen horse which therefore caused=3D20
> > my DLLs=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> to be modified and corrupted. So with this in mind, I=3D20
> > ask you=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> all, which other music downloading program, other =
than=3D3D3D20=20
> > >> >> KazaaLite do you recomment me to use? Will I experience =3D
> any=3D3D3D20
> > >> >> type of DLL corruption like I did with KazaaLite?=20
> Hope to=3D3D3D20
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> > >> >> hear from you all soon. .Armando
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