Good afternoon, Just to clear some things up:1. Web 2.0 can be completely accessible and normally does not require ARIA.
2. Flyout or Popup menus on web-sites have nothing to do with Web 2.03. ARIA (accessible rich internet applications) is most useful for making web based applications more accessible, it would possibly add accessibility to the popup menus on this site, but the menus could be made accessible without ARIA.
4. ARIA is only supported by some assistive technology / browser pairs at the moment and should only be used where no other solution is reasonable.
HTH, Everett On 24-Mar-09, at 7:01 PM, Zaheer Sheikh wrote:
Hey Renette, Actually, you are right. After pressing enter on the link nothing changes. I had to use Jaws curser to move to the "Disabeled Swimming" link, and then press the down arrow key to read the popup menu. I think that this website used web 2.0 coding, which is not accessible with screen readers, unless, they add Aria scripts to their website. You can go to the contact us link on the homepage. There is a form on this page to send "Website Feedback". Let them know that their website is not accessible with screen readers. I'm sure that they will fix it. On 3/24/09, Carpenter, Elizabeth <ecarpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:It's even easier that having him install JAWS. Simply take his mouse away from him then ask him to navigate the site by using only the TAB key. He won't be able to go anywhere.The "onMouseOver" function, used in a lot of programming and scriptinglanguages, only works when the mouse is hovering over the object thefunction is attached to. When one tabs to a link or button, that linkor button has focus, but the mouse curser could be nowhere near it.Can he use an "onFocus" function? When something gets focus, either bytabbing OR by clicking with a mouse, the function will run. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cher Bosch Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:58 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: mouse overs with Jaws Dear Renette, It's not you-- a lot of those mouse-overs don't work for me either. Only a minority of them do seem to work- and as the result, I getexcited when one does. If the site developer won't take your word thatmouse-overs are not cool, invite the webmaster to download a demo of JAWS and try it for him or herself. Perhaps that will speak more convincingly than many words. CherSure, but I do not then seem to find anything that has changed and that"Renette Bloem" <renette@xxxxxxxxxxx> 3/24/2009 3:13 AM >>>issuppose to change after pressing enter on the "disabled swimming" linkor by following the insert 7 and then pressing enter on the link. Do you? What am I doing wrong then? Renette -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zaheer Sheikh Sent: 24 March 2009 06:14 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: mouse overs with Jaws Hey Renet,Just press the Enter key on the link, that works perfect. You can also press Insert+F7 to open the links list Window, down arrow to the link,and press enter to open it. Hope this helps, Zaheer Sheikh www.jfwcc.co.cc On 3/23/09, Renette Bloem <renette@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi All a web programmer is going to provide a link on a able body swimmingwebsiteto go to disabled stuff. They make use of "on Mouse overs" which somehow does not always workas itshould when using Jaws (press: ctrl, insert enter; get text change dialogue; press j + number where the text has changed and enter).How can I explain to them that we prefer not "click on mouse overs",but asimple link where one can only use the enter key to go where one wantstogo? The example website is: http://cga.sportza.co.za <http://cga.sportza.co.za/> On this one they use the "on mouse overs"; It does not always workfor me,but maybe the problem lies with me? Thanks. 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