Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update

Jim,
thanks. I took the plunge and ran the file, and that's exactly how it 
worked. I couldn't be sure by whatpeople had been saying. Thanks again.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: major problems with say all in new JAWS update


Hi it is a full install.  What happens is if you have the jaws 8.0 already
installed the full install just updates it to the latest.
Hth

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:26 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update

I just downloaded and installed the update using Allan's link, and what
installed said it was an update, not a full program, and it doesn't seem to
have wiped out my settings or anything of the sort, at least so far as I can

tell. This entire thread is totally confusing to me, and I'm just glad Allan

provided that direct link and that it all seemed to go without a hitch for
me. Oh, well.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: major problems with say all in new JAWS update


hi.  Ok,Jim, what you say makes total sense. but get this.  i've
heard that Eric Damery of FS is saying to fix the problem with the is
magic running script, what you do is to go into your user settings
folder and  delete default.jsb and default.jss and that should clear
the problem up.  What I'm wondering is,  wouldn't that make JAWS
basically unusable?
I mean if you're deleting the default script? I only know the *very*
basics of working with scripts, so I definitely do not want to render
this instalation of JAWS unusable.  Believe me, I've learned to be
careful through trial and  error. Mostly error and not so much trial, smile.
I just wanna make absolutely, positively sure I'm understanding this
before I continue.











At 02:26 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote:
>hi chris you are making this harder then it has to be.
>simply do this.
>1.  go to your setting folder for jaws and back it up some where.
>to do a full uninstall.
>3.  reinstall jaws.
>4.  put your settings back.
>problem solved.
>should take at the most 15 menits.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>Of Chris Skarstad
>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:55 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
>
>hi.  well, it looks like it's gonna be an uninstall for me.
>I ran the installer for 8.0 build 1163 just a few minutes ago and it
>went through it's little routine, click, cclick, click.
>Then I received a message telling me that the product was already
>installed. to modify or remove it, go to add/remove programs in
>control pannel. Ok so I did that.  The only option I was given was
>remove. No modify, or repair, just remove. I had the choice to just
>remove JAWS, or remove JAWS and shared components.  Through
>experience, I learned that it is most definitely not!  a good idea to
>remove shared components, especially if you have multiple versions of
>JAWS and other access products on your machine, which I do.
>So to fix 8.0 and get it back to some sense of real normalcy, it
>looks like uninstalling 8.0 is my only option. I did write fs tech
>support in hopes they would be able to come up with some other
>solution. I just don't wanna have to do this because it would mean a
>whole lot of configuring for me and I've got better things to do with
>my life then try and fix a broken screenreader that should be working
>in the first damn place.
>Sorry, y'all, but I just wish fs would look at all the options before
>putting their product out. what if someone like me hadn't ran the
>previous update? I wonder if they'd be just as screwed as me. Just
>really frustrated now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 12:39 PM 3/1/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Yeah, I'd go to the download page and select the http link to the
> >package if the ftp link's giving you fits.
> >Tom
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:14 AM
> >Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
> >
> >
> >>Ah, okay. thanks. Should I use the FTP link Allan provided, or should I
> >>go
> >>to the FS site/Jaws Center/Downloads?
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Lange" <trlange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:46 AM
> >>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>I downloaded and ran the full install for build 1163 yesterday.  If
> >>you've
> >>already done an ILM activation for JAWS 8 on your machine, it definitely
> >>won't ask you to re-activate, nor will it cost you a key.
> >>
> >>Tom
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:32 AM
> >>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
> >>
> >>
> >>>P..P.S.
> >>>
> >>>I clicked on the FTP link but all that happened was I got a Windows
> >>>error
> >>>sound. Also, you call it a full installation? Well, that's just what I
> >>>thought I found online last night, and it said it cost an ILM key. I'm
> >>>confused.
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:12 AM
> >>>Subject: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>hi yardbird,
> >>>
> >>>to read about what's new in jaws 8, click this link:
> >>>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp
> >>>
> >>>to read about jaws 8.0.1163 under windows Vista, click this link:
>
>>>http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80VistaUAC.asp
> >>>
> >>>to download the full installer for jaws 8.0.1163, click this link:
>
>>>ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J8.0.1163U
>_ILM.exe
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Allan Wong
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 15:41
> >>>Subject: Re: major problems with say all in new JAWS update
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I seem to have missed some developments since I downloaded my Jaws 8.0
> >>>in
> >>>January, because you guys are talking about having problems with an
>update
> >>>that you can't install as a partial update unless you've installed some
> >>>previous one that I didn't even know had been released, or something.
> >>>
> >>>The version I'm running is 8.0.423. That's what I downloaded in
> >>>January.
> >>>
> >>>So you're saying that I can't use the auto update feature in the Jaws
>menu
> >>>to update this, or else I'll start having even more problems than
> >>>version
> >>>8
> >>>is already giving me?
> >>>
> >>>Anyway, I'd like to read an explanation about this latest version or
> >>>update,
> >>>and see if it's supposed to correct any of the glitches that have
>troubled
> >>>me to this point with version 8. But when I explore on the FS site to
>find
> >>>something, all I can find is a page offering the latest full version,
> >>>numbered 8.0.1163, with the note that it's an ILM thing. Does that mean
> >>>if,
> >>>following you guys' advice, I update by downloading the entire updated
> >>>current version, it'll require one of my keys, leaving me with one
> >>>fewer,
> >>>a
> >>>possible inconveinece later? I thought updates were simply free if you
> >>>already had a current versin installed.
> >>>
> >>>Maybe I'm missing a page that has only updates and some explanation
> >>>about
> >>>them? After reading you guys' complaints, I'd rather download from the
> >>>FS
> >>>site than use the auto update feature, but where do I go to find this
> >>>update
> >>>and read about it, too?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks.
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