to add to that topic, it happens to me with JFW 5, but only if I have a certain other program on my system running. Closing that program after JFW freezes causes JFW to finish reloading. I.e. I unload JFW then hit the hotkey to bring it back, and nothing speaks. Close anything else running and JFW finishes loading. Chris -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx