Re: jfw for the blind or visually impaired

Sy I agree. In fact I am so used to eloquence that I cannot use a real speak voice even if my life depends on it. Maybe neo speech and Ivona. But when I am working or doing research, I prefer eloqunce hands down.


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From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:37 PM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: jfw for the blind or visually impaired

Hi,
I was employed as a systems analyst when I suddenly lost all of my eyesight. I had very poor eyesight and could manage to see the screen but, ka-wham, it
was all gone.
Up to that point I could not touch type, I had to see the blamed keyboard
but I found that I could touch type just fine when I had to.
Regrettably we did not have JAW, I think it was Artic Vision with a
Symphonics 215 speech board. It was, at best, poor and at worst unusable but
I had no choice.
My wife has Diabetic Retinopathy and there is a chance they will not be able
to save her sight.
She sits by me at our computer desk and has become used to listening to JAWS
so, in my opinion, just about 50% of the uphill battle is over for her.
Getting used to listening to this fake speech is a large part of being able
to use JAWS effectibly.
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:42 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: jfw for the blind or visually impaired

I was forced to learn Jaws all at once after losing my vision due to
illness. With this said, I belive that it is important to teach someone with
low vision to use Jaws in a gradual manner. If I could have had the option
to use screen magnification and a mouse I would have. In addition, it is
stressful to take on the task of learning jaws, and I don't think it should
be forced all at once.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:25 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jfw for the blind or visually impaired

It doesn't hurt the student to learn to use Jaws, or to learn to do anything using blindness skills, in my opinion, regardless his visual acuity. I have
been blind for 60 years; and those with whom I went to school who had
partial sight while in school are totally blind now, or as nearly as makes
no difference. It must be remembered we are educating the whole person, and
preparing him to live a successful life regardless his age.  I believe he
should be able to successfully transition and to adjust as his vision
deteriorates.  Should this not be the case would possessing these skills
harm the student? I say no. Because he will learn keyboarding skills which surpass mouse computer navigation. Not to mention causing him to be able to use the computer better generally. He will also learn the life lesson that
things others feel to be an essential such as a computers monitor can be
done without quite successfully.  It will also provide him with the
confidence that he will be capable should his vision further deteriorate.
So, based on what I just maintained it wouldn't hurt sighted students to use screen readers as well regardless their visual ability. My dear mother use
to take children off our neighborhood street and attempt to teach them to
touch type using an old typing book for similar reasons.

----- Original Message ----- From: Kimsan Song <mailto:kimsansong@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: jfw for the blind or visually impaired


Cy,

That was my Original thought.

I kind of figured that there were no criteria, which brought me to
presenting this discussion or lack of...

Where I work, I am part of a multidisciplinary team supporting blind
and visually impaired school students and I have observed the teachers for
the blind assess these students and reccomend jaws training.

My confusion was why when these students are able to read 20 plus pt
font just fine, why introduce them to jaws? and when they use computers else
where its the same exact set up font wise etc. Meaning, the only time they
use jaws is when they are in class with me...

Anyways, thanks for your response.

Take care.




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