What do you mean turn off programmes easily with JFW? From Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: jfw digest users <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: jfw Digest V1 #32 > jfw Digest Tue, 03 Feb 2004 Volume: 01 Issue: 032 > > In This Issue: > Re: J-Say > easily turning off programs > Re: easily turning off programs > RE: easily turning off programs > Re: easily turning off programs > external hard drives with JAWS > recovery disk with n t f s > Zapping history explorer > RE: Zapping history explorer > Re: Dragon & Jaws > Re: Zapping history explorer > Re: new member > Re: Zapping history explorer > Re: Zapping history explorer > Jaws and IBM Notebooks? > Screen readers and cytrix. > Re: Screen readers and cytrix. > Test message > Reminder re. test messages > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Jerry Richer" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: J-Say > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 04:34:34 -0500 > > Bonnie! Setting up Naturally Speaking through J-Say is simple. > Chirping Bat is the United States representative for J-Say. It's simple to > set up but Chirping Bat and T and T are only a phone call or email away. > Check out J-Say in the United States at www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml > Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Bat Arhonious Software > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: easily turning off programs > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 07:27:32 -0500 > From: "Sabatka, Glenn" <gsabatka@xxxxxxxx> > > When I load new programs I must turn off JAWS and make sure it doesn't = > start automatically on re-start, as well as turning off a virus = > protection, firewall, etc. I know all of these show in the system tray. = > =20 > > Is there a fast easy way to disable them for the loading of a new = > program. What steps must I take to insure no corruption of my OS. > > Thanks, Glenn=20 > > ------------------------------ > > From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: easily turning off programs > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 07:33:22 -0500 > > I never turn off jaws. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sabatka, Glenn" <gsabatka@xxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:27 AM > Subject: easily turning off programs > > > When I load new programs I must turn off JAWS and make sure it doesn't = > start automatically on re-start, as well as turning off a virus = > protection, firewall, etc. I know all of these show in the system tray. = > =20 > > Is there a fast easy way to disable them for the loading of a new = > program. What steps must I take to insure no corruption of my OS. > > Thanks, Glenn=20 > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: easily turning off programs > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 07:58:01 -0500 > From: "Sabatka, Glenn" <gsabatka@xxxxxxxx> > > When I load other programs they say turn off all resident programs = > (running in the background,) like JAWS and firewall etc. =20 > If I don't turn these off or disable them in some way my system (xp) = > with JAWS 5.0 corrupts. > > Glenn=20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of David Poehlman > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:33 AM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: easily turning off programs=20 > > > I never turn off jaws. > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Sabatka, Glenn" <gsabatka@xxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:27 AM > Subject: easily turning off programs > > > When I load new programs I must turn off JAWS and make sure it doesn't = > =3D > start automatically on re-start, as well as turning off a virus =3D > protection, firewall, etc. I know all of these show in the system tray. = > =3D > =3D20 > > Is there a fast easy way to disable them for the loading of a new =3D > program. What steps must I take to insure no corruption of my OS. > > Thanks, Glenn=3D20 > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or = > the > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact = > the > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to = > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or = > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather = > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 13:38:02 -0500 > From: Quanin <quanin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: easily turning off programs > > For the record, you needn't actually shut down your screen reader to load > new programs onto your computer, as it doesn't interfere in any way with > OS/program functionality. While they do recommend you shut down *all* > running applications, do keep in mind that most programs aren't designed to > take into account that the person(s) installing them are using a screen > reader or other adaptive program. That said, the jfwlite website has a few > programs that allow you to either shut down everything at once or view a > list of running processes and select which ones to terminate. I believe one > of those programs is called "end all". > > James > > At 07:27 AM 03/02/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >When I load new programs I must turn off JAWS and make sure it doesn't = > >start automatically on re-start, as well as turning off a virus = > >protection, firewall, etc. I know all of these show in the system tray. = > >=20 > > > >Is there a fast easy way to disable them for the loading of a new = > >program. What steps must I take to insure no corruption of my OS. > > > >Thanks, Glenn=20 > >-- > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > >If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > >the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > >contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Tusing" <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: external hard drives with JAWS > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:03:54 -0500 > > Hi, > If you read my previous post , one will understand I am not discussing > hardware but software. > Maxtor has an 80-gig One touch external u s b hard drive for exact back > up purposes or for installing > everything onto a new hard drive--if the old hard drive fails. > Has any one used their Retrospect Express software with JAWS? > The unit costs $180 and larger sizes are available. > Their technical people will help people do scripts for either > 1 making an exact copy or image or > 2 making a different back up method--which can install "all data and > programs " back onto a new hard drive without having to reinstall > programs. > Assuming--as they say--that everything can be done via keyboarding > I would becurious if any one has tried this. hardware but more > importantly the software with a ruined hard drive. > Contact Numbers: > pre sales tech support for Maxtor 1800 2 M A X T O R > Sales 877 692 3562 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Tusing" <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: recovery disk with n t f s > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:55:26 -0500 > > Hi, all, > I am debating the fat 32 n t f s thing and was informed if I ever wish > to--for wahtever reason--to copy a dvd that I need to learn more a bout > ntfs. > So does any one have links for easy solutions for creating boot disks > for JAWS users using ntfs? > With 100,000 JAWS users out there, surely some one has the quick remedy. > And has any one" actually "tried or accomplished " out" the ntfs > booting disk method? > > I say this as a super technical friend has saved my system 3 times with > boot disks soI understand their need. > Simply having sometechnical expert tell me " well with X p and ntfs > this will never happen" doesn't convince me as I know that rotten things > can happen to computers. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Jim Talley" <nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Zapping history explorer > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:43:47 -0700 > > Good afternoon all, can any of you tell me how to shut off the history explorer it pop ups when ever I go to internet explorer and is quite annoying. I am on Jaws 5.0 with Win XP pro.gargantuan thanks upfront. > THE SORCERERS APPRENTICE > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Midence, Alex" <MidenceA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: Zapping history explorer > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:47:19 -0600 > > Here, just do this: > put your jaws cursor on the history button. it should be down below your > menu bar and your tool bar. Click on it with right click and it should put > your pc cursor on close. Hit enter and there you go. > > Alex Midence > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Talley [mailto:nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 4:44 PM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Zapping history explorer > > > Good afternoon all, can any of you tell me how to shut off the history > explorer it pop ups when ever I go to internet explorer and is quite > annoying. I am on Jaws 5.0 with Win XP pro.gargantuan thanks upfront. > THE SORCERERS APPRENTICE > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Ken Buxton" <kenbu@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Dragon & Jaws > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 06:53:54 -0800 > > I'm getting Dragon but don't have the prog that works in conjuction with > Jaws and dragon. What is the program named as I couldn't make it out in > your messege even though it was there...probably not able to get it because > of some problem re functionality or something. TXS for any help; Cordially, > Ken B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Marquette" <emarquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 7:31 PM > Subject: RE: Dragon & Jaws > > > > J-SAY is brilliant in that it does what it is supposed to do and gets > > out of the way. > > It combines the functionality of JAWS with the functionality of Dragon > > Naturally Speaking. > > The training tutorial is simple; no sighted assistance is necessary; and > > the result is fantastic. > > I have full use of my hands, so I do not use voice for everything -- > > mostly dictation of text. > > Within MS Word, however, it is fairly comprehensive in terms of > > functionality. > > If you have no sight and no (or only limited) use of your hands, > > Jawbones may still be your best choice. > > > > > > > > Ed Marquette > > 930 West 34th St. > > Kansas City, MO 64111 > > (816) 561- 7111 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Carl J. Rose > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 9:41 PM > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: Dragon & Jaws > > > > > > Mr. Marquette, > > I have heard of J-say, but not used it. I have used Jawbone and have not > > had the best luck. Can you tell more about how J-say interfaces with > > Jaws and maybe compare it to Jawbone? For instance, does J-say repeat > > dictation through Jaws? > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Carl > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Edward Marquette > > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:45 PM > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: Dragon & Jaws > > > > > > I used J-SAY, a relatively inexpensive third-party package with Dragon > > Naturally Speaking. Without the need for sighted assistance, I set-up > > and trained Dragon. I use it fairly effectively now. I am using JAWS > > 4.51. I am waiting for FS to come out with 5.1 and, it is hoped, fix the > > bugs in 5.0. > > > > > > > > > > Ed Marquette > > 930 West 34th St. > > Kansas City, MO 64111 > > (816) 561- 7111 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Private Party > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:12 AM > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Dragon & Jaws > > > > > > Bill, > > > > On my IBM desk top computer I run Dragon and Jaws. > > > > When I initially was setting it up I bought a third software application > > > > titled, "Jaws Bones." > > > > However, after allot of trying to get the nightmare running, I removed > > the Jaw Bones and had a sighted person work with me using intercom > > headphones and such and after many many many hours of hard work, got > > Dragon and Jaws working together. > > > > The third program Jaw Bones is a costly program and likely a good one, > > but I like things to work well and fast; So I did not want to put the > > time into that third software application. > > > > If you are going to run Dragon, let me suggest you use Dragon Pro with > > Jaws 4.5. > > > > I put Jaws 5 on that machine and had to un install it. > > > > Lastly, let me say if you want the setup of Dragon to go well, confess > > to yourself that blind people from time to time need help of sighted > > people. > > > > Your life will be allot less stressful if you simply have eyes to help > > and a set of two way headphone intercoms. > > > > Regards, > > L.D. Yooman > > > > > > > > At 08:24 AM 1/29/2004, you wrote: > > >Hi All, > > > > > >Some time ago -- probably 18 months or so -- I was looking into > > >purchasing a powerful PC and installing both JAWS and Dragon Naturally > > >Speaking so my bride could use it to read/send email and browse the > > >internet. However, it seemed at that time a third piece of software > > >was required to be able to use both assistive technologies on the same > > >PC. > > > > > >Can anybody offer any suggestions or answers to the following > > >questions: > > > > > >- What is required for getting JAWS and Naturally Speaking to work > > >together now? > > >- Is the third utility still necessary? > > >- Is there any way to configure a PC to use both JAWS and Naturally > > >Speaking without such a third utility? > > >- Would an additional sound card be of any value in this configuration? > > >- If the third utility is a must, which one offers the biggest bang for > > > > >the buck? > > >- What sort of cost are we looking at here (I have an authorized JAWS > > >already but not Naturally Speaking)? > > > > > >Thanks much! > > >---------------- > > >Bill Gallik > > >E-Mail: wfgallik@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no > > >path and leave a trail." -Ralph Waldo Emerson > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > >jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > > line. > > > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Francis Daniels" <fdaniels@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Zapping history explorer > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:03:52 -0800 > > There's an easier way: > > Alt V (view pull-down menu). > Down arrow to Explorer bar sub menu. > Press right arrow or Enter to open it. > Down arrow to History. It will be checked. > Press Enter to un-check it. > That's it. You don't need to do the JAWS cursor if you don't want to. > > Francis > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Ken Buxton" <kenbu@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: new member > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:04:07 -0800 > > Hi Troy; Welcome to the list. Say, I've just gotten jaws 5 and win. xp and > am new at this script idea. What scripts are automaticly in this version? > Wouldn't mind investigating this phenominonmto say the least. I was using > jaws 3.7 so this upgrade is extensive no doubt compared to the earier one > ay? TXS for any suggestions and help. Cheers; Ken B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Troy Sullivan" <sullidog_2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 8:44 PM > Subject: new member > > > > Hi all. I'm Troy and I'm a new member. I'm sure most of you have seen me > on > > other lists so I'm not gonna go into detail about me. I use jaws5, and > > windows xp home. I'm willing to help anyone with a jaws problem if I know > > the answer. I also have problems of my own at times so I'm not perfect > lol. > > I look forward to being here! > > Troy > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact > the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Francis Daniels" <fdaniels@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Zapping history explorer > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:07:31 -0800 > > Sheesh, I forgot: Control H will also toggle on and off the History list. > And to think I work with this stuff. Sigh. > > Francis > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "RJ" <rjf1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Zapping history explorer > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:05:23 -0500 > > Use control h, I believe that is the switch. > But I do get senior moments at times. > RJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Talley" <nrg.jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:43 PM > Subject: Zapping history explorer > > > Good afternoon all, can any of you tell me how to shut off the history > explorer it pop ups when ever I go to internet explorer and is quite > annoying. I am on Jaws 5.0 with Win XP pro.gargantuan thanks upfront. > THE SORCERERS APPRENTICE > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx> > Subject: Jaws and IBM Notebooks? > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:31:26 -0500 > > I know this goes around and around, sorry about that but I am needing a > Notebook and I seem to recall that one or more of the IBM series were said > to have a number pad separate which folds out from the keyboard and further, > that they work well with JAWS. > > I don't happen to live within hundreds of kilometres of a store which > carries any inventory and my searches on the Web do not make any reference > to such a feature. > > Have I misunderstood -- is there such a notebook with a number pad or one > with something like a full keyboard? > > For the moment we can assume that cost is not the concern. > > Thanks. > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario > dleavens@xxxxxxx > Home of the Polar Bear Express! > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx> > Subject: Screen readers and cytrix. > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:34:11 -0500 > > They will be installing this thin client on my computer tomorrow. It is to > be used with the payroll application, we will be entering our own time. I > understand that Window Eyes has some support for this, I also understood > that JAWS was working on it but I have not heard that there has been any > success. Wondered if it was present in the newest version. > > Thanks. > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario > dleavens@xxxxxxx > Home of the Polar Bear Express! > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:40:44 -0600 (CST) > From: Bruce Toews <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Screen readers and cytrix. > > Official word from FS is that they are indeed working on it and expect to > have support sometime this year. Reports on WE's implementation of it > range from "all your dreams come true" according to GW Micro, to > "extremely buggy" from FS. The only way to get an objective opinion on > that would be to try it with the demo yourself ... just don't talk about > it here when you do. <GRIN> FS says that they want to get it right with > JAWS the first time. We'll just have to wait and see ... and not talk > about it here until such a time as it is included with JAWS. > > Bruce > > -- > Bruce Toews > E-Mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > For the best oldies anywhere go to http://www.treasureislandoldies.com > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Dale Leavens wrote: > > > They will be installing this thin client on my computer tomorrow. It is to > > be used with the payroll application, we will be entering our own time. I > > understand that Window Eyes has some support for this, I also understood > > that JAWS was working on it but I have not heard that there has been any > > success. Wondered if it was present in the newest version. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario > > dleavens@xxxxxxx > > Home of the Polar Bear Express! > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Don Risavy, Jr." <donaldjjr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Test message > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:27:00 -0600 > > Test message to make sure have the address correct for the JFW mailing > list. > > > Thanks. > > > > Don Risavy, Jr. > > CompTia A+ PC Technician > > Pensacola, FL 32506 > > donaldjjr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 23:35:42 -0600 (CST) > From: Bruce Toews <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: Reminder re. test messages > > As with most mailing lists, test messages are not permitted on the JFW > list, as stated in the list rules. Please do not post test messages to the > list, and please do not post public replies to those who do. Thank you. > > Bruce > > -- > Bruce Toews > E-Mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > For the best oldies anywhere go to http://www.treasureislandoldies.com > > ------------------------------ > > End of jfw Digest V1 #32 > ************************ -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx