David, Alt+f4 should always close the window you're in. If it opens a menu, then perhaps you have a stuck key modifier like one of the shift keys or one of the Ctrl keys or one of the Windows keys. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Hardingham To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:03 Subject: jfw 12.5 quirks Hi all, Why does jaws take me to menus when I use alt plus f4? Also does anyone know of a word processer the works well with jaws. I do not want to pay for microsoft products. Thanks, David