Angel, AS to your question on the bug report, it creates a special dump file somewhere and if FS asks for this, they can tell us where it's located. I suspect the file gets created somewhere in the C:\program files\freedom scientific folder. A file does not automatically get sent to FS. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 (but without a WebCam) in and around my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 04:29 Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 I only have use of my right index finger for typing purposes. I find the key stroke jaws, plus, windows key, alt f 4 not difficult if I press the jaws key with the index finger of my right hand and use the thumb on the left alt key and my left index finger on the f 4 key. I hope this helps with your difficulties concerning this problem you all face. I don't understand what you mean by the creation of a bug report when these keys are pressed. If this is the case, how is this report accessed and sent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 > Peter, > > You're a brave man. I just tried it, and yes I can do it, but I'm afraid > that I'll damage my left hand and no longer able to play the accordion. > I'll > continue to use both hands for that one. > > Dave > Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in and around my Audio Recording and > Mixing > Studios, San Jose, California > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 13:23 > Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 > > > I find it doable with one hand but it's quite a stretch with my index > finger. > > peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Farfar Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:10 AM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 > > Peter, > > Yes, on my desktop I tried to use the laptop layout, but it was not > compatible with my Cakewalk Sonar, so have to stick with the desktop > layout. > > On my Dell Latitude 630 laptop I use the laptop layout. With an external > full 101-key keyboard the CapsLock key is an alternate JAWS key. > > However pressing CapsLock + Windows + F4 on a full-size keyboard is even > harder than Insert+Windows+F4. Takes two hands. > > Dave > Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 00:07 > Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 > > > Hi, I use the laptop keyboard layout even on desktop computers. This makes > the caps lock key act as the JAWS INSERT key and you can change cursors > etc > using the letters keys rather than having to use the number keypad. It > works much better and I'm pretty sure FS recommend that people use the > laptop keyboard layout on desktop keyboards. I would recommend having a > look > at JAWS help to see what keys you can access. The easiest way to change to > laptop keyboard layout is to run the jaws startup wizard from the help > menu. > > peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Farfar Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:07 AM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4 > > Michael, > > That keystroke is supposed to completely (and very quickly) kill JAWS and > simultaneously create a debug file dump for analysis purposes. If you > didn't > notice anything, then perhaps you didn't actually hit the Windows key. > > I agree with you. Some of these keystrokes actually hurt my 58-year-old > fingers. > > Dave > Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Arnowitt" <MA@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 17:19 > Subject: jaws key + windows key + F4 > > > Mike mentioned some command of jaws key + windows key + F4. Using the > insert key on the numpad, that's a really difficult stretch. In my > perfect world, the jaws key would be in the middle of the keyboard > right below the spacebar. I hate having to jump all the way over to > the numpad with my right hand and frequently have to move my left > hand out of position to cover a certain key, then have to move both > hands back. Seems so inefficient... > > btw, what does this keystroke do? I tried it and heard my computer > make a little sci-fi sound. Figured I'd better do it a second time to > toggle it off, whatever it was. > > Michael > > > -- > JFW related links: > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > Scripting mailing list: > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > JFW List instructions: > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > Alternative archives located at: > http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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