RE: jaws key + windows key + F4

Michael,

I'm going to copy the instructions given by a former and much missed lister,
Allan Wong. For clarification, I kept the questions that led to his answers.
I think he addresses your concern.

Question. When I open the Start Menu, and then Programs (Classic mode), the
list doesn't seem to be all there at first. I was thinking there was a
setting to be changed that would fix this, but not sure. I have made all the
recommended changes for XP with Jaws. 

Allan Wong. go to control panel and hit letter "t" for "taskbar and start
menu", press enter. press ctrl+tab to start menu tab, make sure the first
option is selected at "classic start menu", now press tab once for
"customize..." and hit spacebar. press tab until "start menu
settings-treeview" and press arrow down to the last selection call "use
personalized menu", make sure it is off, if it is on, press spacebar to turn
it off. press ok button to close and press apply button to activate the
changes and finally press enter at the ok button. now, your start menu list
will be all appear. 

Follow-up question. I find that the list under the Windows Programs menu
takes time to appear. I don't know why. A few programs come up immediately,
but it takes several seconds for the entire list to follow. I wait and arrow
up and down so I can tell when the remaining programs have elected to show
themselves. 

Allan. Please make sure the option "use personalized menu" is select at off.
to make this changes, refer to my previous posting. after you turn the "use
personalized menu" off, your start/program menu list will appear as normal. 

Reply. This works. Many thanks. I figured this was a limitation I had to
live with. One small note. There is no "Apply" button here. I checked twice.
But pressing "OK" after the selection and again at the end of the start menu
sequence buttons seems to hold the changed setting.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Michael Arnowitt
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:51 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

Dave, the more I think about it, I'm pretty sure when I did this jaws +
windows + F4 keystroke I probably did restart Jaws and that's when I noticed
the changes. I probably miswrote earlier. Restarting Jaws is so automatic I
guess I managed to forget I had even done it.

I have a desktop with XP and Jaws 12. When this keystroke combo killed Jaws
I heard a cute sound effect like a brzzap on a cartoon. I think I've got
everything back to normal now post-crash except the Start Menu. If anyone
knows where the Start Menu appearance can be customized, if at all, in XP
please let me know as it may have gone back to some default or its placement
on the screen got slightly changed.

Michael

Dave wrote: Michael,

If you're using a laptop, you may have accidentally used the Fn (Function)
key and adjusted your screen settings. Insert+Windows+F4 should have
definitely shut down JAWS 11 or 12. Don't know if it works on older
versions, or not.

Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose,
California

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Arnowitt" <MA@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 05:37
Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

Actually I did notice a few changes when I did this finger-stretching key
combo. The first thing I noticed was it changed the insert to overwrite
characters instead of pushing them to the right, I was able to get this
back. Secondly, the Jaws voice suddenly got very low and slow and the key
interrupt was flipped from my preference, I was able to get this back to
normal with a couple of restarts. The only thing I haven't been able to
recover from yet are that it changed the visual appearance of my desktop and
start menu slightly, moving a few desktop items a bit to the left partly off
the screen I think and adding a visually distracting sidebar with a
Microsoft logo to the start menu column. This probably isn't really a topic
of much interest to the list, but if anyone has any ideas here they can
write me off-list. I checked the screen resolution and it didn't seem to
have changed.

Probably not a great idea to try out key combinations you don't know what
they do. Had a rare moment of curiosity.

Michael MA@xxxxxxxxxxx

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