Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

  • From: Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:19:48 +0000

Yes your right the caps lock jaws key and J won’t bring up the jaws menu as 
whilst pressing the caps lock key the j k l and ; keys, and the ones above and 
below will all act like the number keys on a keypad do when pressed with the 
caps lock.

Peter

From: Brandon Keith 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:33 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

So there are two jaws keys or insert keys on laptops without a numpad:
first is caps lock, second is 1 left of the delete key (on my keyboard it's 1 
left from the very top right key).
Insert J does not work if you use caps lock J, only the key next to the delete 
will work as the insert for insert J.
This is odd, but it's what it is.
Thanks,

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From: Judy Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:27 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

The caps lock is used as the insert key on laptops without a num pad.

Judy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yadiel Sotomayor 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

  Actually, caps lock plus j reads the previous word. You need to press the 
actual insert key found besides the delete key on most laptop keyboards.

  From: Brandon Keith 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:45 PM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

  Insert+J on the laptop doesn't do anything. Is there another command to bring 
up Jaws on the laptop lay-out?
  Thanks,

  Brandon Keith

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  From: Adrian Spratt 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:41 AM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Subject: RE: jaws key + windows key + F4

  This is my method, too. fortunately, almost every hard key combination is for 
a rarely used operation. the one I hate the most is the virtualized window 
command, reassigned in JAWS 11 to JAWS key-alt-w. but the one no one has 
complained about is insert-j for the JAWS menus. Now that's unnatural, 
requiring you to use the left index finger for a key otherwise pressed with the 
right hand.

  You'll notice I'm using the desktop layout.


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  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Mike & Barbara In Arcadia
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:28 PM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4


  HI Dave;

  The way I invoke this keystroke is, right little finger on the Insert key, 
right thumb on the windows key, & press the F4 key with the left index finger.  
I have small hands so, I have to be creative with some keystrokes that should 
be part of that game called " Twister ."  LOLLOL
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Farfar Carlson 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 6:07 PM
    Subject: Re: jaws key + windows key + F4

    Michael,

    That keystroke is supposed to completely (and very quickly) kill JAWS and 
    simultaneously create a debug file dump for analysis purposes. If you 
didn't 
    notice anything, then perhaps you didn't actually hit the Windows key.

    I agree with you. Some of these keystrokes actually hurt my 58-year-old 
    fingers.

    Dave
    Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Michael Arnowitt" <MA@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 17:19
    Subject: jaws key + windows key + F4


    Mike mentioned some command of jaws key + windows key + F4. Using the
    insert key on the numpad, that's a really difficult stretch. In my
    perfect world, the jaws key would be in the middle of the keyboard
    right below the spacebar. I hate having to jump all the way over to
    the numpad with my right hand and frequently have to move my left
    hand out of position to cover a certain key, then have to move both
    hands back. Seems so inefficient...

    btw, what does this keystroke do? I tried it and heard my computer
    make a little sci-fi sound. Figured I'd better do it a second time to
    toggle it off, whatever it was.

    Michael


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