Re: jaws and freedomscitific

And your replying to it is doing exactly the opposite.
At 02:40 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
Oh please do put a stop to it.  It has gotten way out of hand.


----- Original Message ----- From: "James" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific


> Okay. I'm going through every email I've received over the last 24 hours, > and I'm rather amazed at how many people feel like continuing this thread > after I told everyone, twice, to drop it. Anyone who feels like replying to > this thread now will end up moderated. If you won't close the thread on > your own, I'll help you. > > James, > List Admin > > At 11:16 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote: > >Can't some people face that they dodn't know everything? This is a jaws > >information list, not the ego list for yardbird. Cut the garbage Daniel and > >realize that other people in this world have brains also. Judith > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:36 PM > >Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > > > > > B.S., Gene. Get back. You know exactly what you said. Incredible nerve > >to > > > deny it. Just let the whole thing go. I'm not stupid, so don't you > >pretend > > > to be stupid. Thanks. > > > . > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:25 PM > > > Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > > > > > > > No one was making fun of you, but what ever. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks; Gene > > > > > > On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:08 PM > > > Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > > > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > > > Gene, there are a lot of people who post messages that look as if they > > > > haven't graduated junior high school, but do I bag on them because of > >it? > > > > What's the matter with you. Chill out. Don't make fun of the way > >people > > > > express themselves. Not an honorable practice. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:02 PM > > > > Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > > > > > > > > > > Gene, > > > > I'll thank you not to insult my diction. Don't start with me, whoever > >you > > > > are. Thank you. And Bruce, stay out of this. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:59 PM > > > > Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > > > > > > > > > > To answer your question as I understand it after cutting through all the > > > > flourishes, no it isn't macho. When I go to the system tray and Jaws > >tells > > > > me there are updates ready for my computer I hit enter on the message. > > > > That > > > > opens a dialog box that gives me a little info about the update process > > > > and > > > > asks how I want to do it. I chose the custom install and jaws tells me > > > > that > > > > x number of updates are ready and that all will be installed unless I > > > > unselect one by removing the check next to it. What isn't clear? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks; Gene > > > > > > > > On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:52 PM > > > > Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > > > > > > > > > >> Gene, > > > >> > > > >> For me, Jaws does not say that times are selected here. It simply > > > >> doesn't > > > >> make any such announcements. Plus it takes more knowledge and > >intuition > > > >> than you are acknowledging, I think, to even know what to do if you > >*do* > > > >> know that the items are preselected by default, which I didn't until a > > > >> sighted friend told me so. You have to be fairly clever and > >experienced > > > >> to > > > >> understand that this means, lacking vocalization that there's a > >checkbox > > > >> in > > > >> one state or another associated with each item, that you can uncheck > > > >> something by pressing the spacebar when you're on it, and be sure to > > > >> remember what you've done in case you have second thoughts or need to > > > >> review > > > >> the list before going ahead. I'm not being silly about this, or wimpy, > > > >> but > > > >> you seem oddly obdurate (or is it simply sort of macho?) to say it's no > > > >> problem. What's going on? You don't believe me? Is that it, maybe? > > > >> You > > > >> don't think it's an effort for some people to intuit a situation like > > > >> this > > > >> and then hold in memory every keystroke they make because nothing's > >being > > > >> spoken? I'm puzzled at your lack of empathy on this. I didn't say > > > >> "sympathy," just "empathy." Meaning you don't seem to believe the > > > >> experience I'm describing. Please believe it. Again, I'm really glad > > > >> you > > > >> have this drill hammered, and I'm simmply teaching myself another one > >of > > > >> those "fly by the seat of the pants" tricks when the screen reader > >isn't > > > >> telling you most of what you need to know in the situation. I'm game, > > > >> just > > > >> saying it's a learning effort, that's all. > > > >> > > > >> Daniel > > > >> I'm bruate nchintoher > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:00 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> No... but I already know that all items are selected because the > >previous > > > >> lines in the dialog box said so. I don't see the confusion here. They > >are > > > >> all selected unless you unselect them. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Thanks; Gene > > > >> > > > >> On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 1:44 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> Gene, > > > >>> I didn't say that Jaws doesn't speak that announcement. sure, it says > > > >>> that > > > >>> to me. , too-- Jaws is reading that message. But then, if you > >actually > > > >>> traverse the list with your arrow key, I think you'll find that Jaws > > > >>> speaks > > > >>> only the items, without announcing that they're accompanied by check > > > >>> boxes > > > >>> and what the state of each checkbox is. Is it different for you? > > > >>> > > > >>> From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:04 AM > > > >>> Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> But when mine comes up it says "Uncheck the items you don't want > > > >>> installed.". So that is quite clear to me. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks; Gene > > > >>> > > > >>> On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:31 AM > > > >>> Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> auto Updates can also be configured so that they appear listed in > >your > > > >>>> system tray and can be reviewed and selected/deselected before > >download > > > >>>> and > > > >>>> install. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> This is what I've done, as I'm not technically astute enough to want > >to > > > >>>> spend time at the Microsoft site trying to understand which updates > >do > > > >>>> what > > > >>>> and which might be hazardous to my computing health with Jaws. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> A note: if you use this option, Jaws doesn't report that the items > > > >>>> listed > > > >>>> have check boxes, and whether they're checked or unchecked. So you > > > >>>> should > > > >>>> know that all items are checked by default, and as you arrow through > > > >>>> the > > > >>>> you > > > >>>> can hit the space bar to deselect prior to pressing the download > > > >>>> button. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Would be nice if someone, maybe FS, would write a script to make > >those > > > >>>> item > > > >>>> states visible/audible. > > > >>>> aws,e need rf icro > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>> From: "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx> > > > >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >>>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 1:45 AM > > > >>>> Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I never have my system do any automatic updates as I like to be in > > > >>>> control > > > >>>> of what is being put onto my computer. IN case you do not know this, > > > >>>> automatic updates can be disabled in control panel - at least they > >can > > > >>>> be > > > >>>> for windows 2k and I think this is the same in xp. When I have a > >fresh > > > >>>> install of windows, this is one of the first things I do - disable > > > >>>> autonatic updates. I rather go to the windows update page where I can > > > >>>> select and deselect what updates are suggested for my computer. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Cheers, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Doris > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> At 03:55 AM 6/20/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > >>>>>That may be a little tougher to avoid than you think. Automatic > >updates > > > >>>>>may do the update without warning you. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Thanks; Gene > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx> > > > >>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:50 AM > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: jaws and freedomscitific > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>Also, there is nothing that I see that would force a current jaws > >5.x > > > >>>>>>user to upgrade internet Explorer if it really wasn't supported by > > > >>>>>>jaws. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Let's just wait until IE 7.0 is out in public beta and reports from > > > >>>>>>the > > > >>>>>>courageous daring to install beta software come in. <g> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>cheers, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>Doris > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>At 12:07 AM 6/20/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > > >>>>>>>If Microsoft makes a major change in Internet Explorer, which is > >the > > > >>>>>>>only way 5.0 wouldn't be able to run with it, that isn't the fault > >of > > > >>>>>>>FS. In fact, there isn't much FS can do about it. I mean, why would > > > >>>>>>>they > > > >>>>>>>do a major re-write on a version that is to generations out of > >date? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>Thanks; Gene > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>On MSN and Yahoo - > > > >>>>>>><mailto:guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>>>>>From: <mailto:josephmachise@xxxxxxxxxxx>Joseph Machise > > > >>>>>>>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:59 PM > > > >>>>>>>Subject: jaws and freedomscitific > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>People on the list > > > >>>>>>>I was given this information, > > > >>>>>>>I don't know how accreted this is, but I will find out > >tomorrow,when > > > >>>>>>>I > > > >>>>>>>call freedomscientific . > > > >>>>>>>I was told that those of us who have Jaws 5.0 > > > >>>>>>>when the next version of Jaws 7.0 comes out, that freedomscientific > > > >>>>>>>will > > > >>>>>>>not support with Jaws 5.0 the next version of inter net explorer. > > > >>>>>>>I hope this is not true, they want every body to upgrade to 7.0 > > > >>>>>>>If they do this, I hope the blind people get a class action law > >suit. > > > >>>>>>>Thanks from Joseph. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>"Why "do "bad "things "Happen "to "good "people! > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>!With love always from Joseph. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>-- > > > >>>>>>To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>>>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > >>>>>>jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > > > >>>>>>line. > > > >>>>>>Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the > >list, > > > >>>>>>or > > > >>>>>>the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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Rather > > > >>> contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > >line. > > > >> Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > >> > > > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, > >or > > > >> the > > > >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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Rather contact > > > > the > > > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > > > > the > > > > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact > > > > the > > > > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > > > > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > > > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > > > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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