Re: jaws and cd burning
- From: "Harry Bassler" <HBassler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:35:25 -0500
Then it must be Elaine.
I recall when we first began to email about a file locater list, one person
said she was EarthMother.
I thought it was you.
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: jaws and cd burning
> Hi Harry, no, I'm not mother Earth on winmx. I'm even logged on there
right
> now.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Bassler" <HBassler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws and cd burning
>
>
> > Chevelle, are you MotherEarth on WimMx?
> > If so you are uploading the Tiger Tiger you asked me about, right now.
> > HarryB
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: jaws and cd burning
> >
> >
> >> Hi Harry, I think the main reason is because wav files are pretty big.
> > Most
> >> people want to fit as many songs as they can. Mp3 will allow this
because
> > it
> >> is so much smaller than wav files, but to me quality is very important.
I
> >> want to be a ble to fit as many songs or other audio files as I can,
but
> >> still get the high quality as I can. If it means recording at 256 kb
then
> > I
> >> will. Even if it is a talk file like an audio book I don't want to
settle
> >> for just average.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Harry Bassler" <HBassler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:38 AM
> >> Subject: Re: jaws and cd burning
> >>
> >>
> >> > Bill, if we are that fussy about sound, why not simply stick to .wav
> >> > files,
> >> > there's no question that it sounds better than MP3.
> >> > Harry Bassler
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:14 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: jaws and cd burning
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> if you really want to explore all this consider the p c audio list.
> >> >>
> >> >> mp3 creation depends on many factors.
> >> >>
> >> >> the standard mp3 at 128k for instance uses joint stereo, not true
> > stereo.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> plus the software used to make the m p 3 also plays a part.
> >> >>
> >> >> lame is often used as well as the german product.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> some of it forces one to true stereo and others give one options
when
> > to
> >> >> pick true stereo.
> >> >>
> >> >> so if your forced to true stereo at say 192 then much of the extra
> > code
> >> > is
> >> >> not going to improved sound but into making it 2 channel.
> >> >>
> >> >> so in my view if you want the same quality of a 128k with true
stereo
> > you
> >> >> need to double it to 256.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> others have differant opinions on this.
> >> >>
> >> >> also realize this whole process is getting rid of 90 percent to 70
> >> >> percent
> >> >> of the original info.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> so the music it self can make a differance.
> >> >>
> >> >> one tune i have with violins gets butchered by mp3 creation.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> the violin is almost non existant.
> >> >>
> >> >> it ruins the mp3 and by expermenting i found 256 better than the top
> >> >> encryption.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> no idea why, but the bottom line is this the best mp3 are a result
of
> >> >> a
> >> >> person who cares about what their making.
> >> >>
> >> >> they put in the time to make a good mp3.
> >> >>
> >> >> also realize certain types of music are better for making mp3 songs.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> lets not forget about variable bit rate either.
> >> >>
> >> >> a feature in some packages that determens that some parts get
> >> >> encrypted
> >> >> at
> >> >> the highest level while less complex parts do not.
> >> >>
> >> >> then normalization is also a factor.
> >> >>
> >> >> this feature is used to up the volume so all the mp3 will be
> >> >> approximently
> >> >> the same.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> step one, rip the wave.
> >> >> make sure it has no glitches.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> step 2 normalize.
> >> >>
> >> >> step 3 encode.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> e z cd creator mp3 tool does not even allow for normalization.
> >> >> talking about the roxio product.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> so you want a package that normalizes.
> >> >>
> >> >> still e z cd creator is good for ripping wave files.
> >> >>
> >> >> by the way nero is not easy to just rip wave files.
> >> >>
> >> >> here is what to look for in a ripper program.
> >> >>
> >> >> jfw friendly.
> >> >>
> >> >> the ability to do all above steps in one single action.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> the ability to do them seperately.
> >> >>
> >> >> especially rip the waves.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> plus the ability to encrypt and normalize mp3 files in batch
> >> >> operation.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> that means you got 300 waves you can start the process and go to
> >> >> sleep.
> >> >>
> >> >> presto done the next morning.
> >> >>
> >> >> also look for package with variable bit rate.
> >> >>
> >> >> plus its nice if you have a good c d d b to tell you what songs your
> >> >> about
> >> >> to rip.
> >> >>
> >> >> some cd data bases actually are paid services like grace note.
> >> >> most consider that one to be the best.
> >> >>
> >> >> some ripper packages even use more than one service in case one
> >> >> service
> >> >> does not have the cd in their data base.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> plus a mp3 tag editor.
> >> >>
> >> >> also the option to do ogg.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> yes ogg has the same options.
> >> >>
> >> >> some say it sounds better but my view is that oggs best feature is
its
> >> > free.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> the folks with the rights to mp3 creation now make you pay for using
> >> >> in
> >> >> every program that has it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> so its not uncommon that you have to pay extra to use it in sound
> > editors
> >> >> or mp3 rippers.
> >> >>
> >> >> so if you try making a mp3 do not be surprised if the prgram wants
you
> > to
> >> >> pay and register to use that feature.
> >> >>
> >> >> even if you already registerred the rest of the program.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> to be honest i think its a rip off, their used to be a program that
> > added
> >> >> it to windows so any program could access it and you only payed for
it
> >> >> one
> >> >> time.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> so for that reason ogg is good because their are no fees to use it.
> >> >>
> >> >> realize one downside to ogg, your portable may not support ogg.
> >> >>
> >> >> your home stereo may have same issue.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> bill
> >> >>
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