Hi all, I'm having a strange problem with the latest version of jaws 9 and Vista with sp1. When I first load jaws it cannot read many items in list dialogs (such as it's own insert+f11 to show you the systray items). It knows an item is there, it just can't see any text. I unload it and reload it and all is ok for quite a while. Something happens however, eventually, and I end up in the same predicament, and have to unload and reload. I've noticed when it happens I cannot read outlook ;list items, or outlook messages either, but shift-tabbing through the windows will read to me the window titles. jaws isn't dead or hung, it just suddently can't see most things. It didn't do this when I first got the Dell and Vista, but since then jaws has been updated and so has vista. I've installed software on the Dell as well (but not drivers myself, maybe someone were updated). It has an NVidia graphics card. Any ideas as to what's happening, or what I should try when this happens? thanks. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)