Re: jaws 7
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:31:26 -0800
he's right, you know (said with a British accent)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: jaws 7
Hi, no matter wether or not you have an autheration you will have basics
in the jaws interface no matter what.
jim grimsby
msn: jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx
email: jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx
skype: jim.grimsby
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:29 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws 7
Just for the record, I did all that but basics weren't there. Today I
found out that I didn't have an authorization disc so the teck emailed
freedom and hopefully I'll have it tomorrow. Thanks, Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: jaws 7
> Judith. Inser J. Now you hear Options. That is the first thing you
hear.
> It has a submenu. Enter or right arrow to bring that up. Now Arrow
> up
and
> down to see what's there, and press Enter on Basics.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
> Daniel, I can't get to basics, that's the problem. When I have th
> jaws window open on the desktop I can't tab or arrow around to find
> anything. That's the problem. Judith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:19 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
> > Judith,
> >
> > You hear the three dots after the word Basics? That means there's a
> submenu
> > to open. Hit Enter. Then use your up and down arrow keys. Please
> > try this.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> >
> >
> > Yardbird, I understand about the retina, that's where my visual
> > problem stems from. Can you tell me how to get to basics? I
> > brought the jaws window up with jaws key j and then tried accessing
> > it through the desk
> top.
> > Both times I got the window but couldn't arrow around in the box to
> > get
to
> > basics. Judith
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> >
> >
> > > Well, thanks. I can see in my blurry way that the program
> > > interface
is
> on
> > > the screen, but I can't see clearly enough with my central vision
> > > (the
> > part
> > > of the retina we use for reading, seeing faces, etc., none of
> > > which I
> can
> > > do) to see that the shark logo is decorating it. So when Judith
> referred
> > > only to the logo, and didn't just say that the Main Jaws
> > > interface
> window
> > > was what she meant, I didn't know what to think.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > >
> > >
> > > the JAWS logo is a shark. it appears in the main window when the
window
> is
> > > actually on the screen, instead of the system tray.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:34 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
> > > >I'm confused. Judith referred to seeing a jaws logo on the
> > > >screen.
I
> > > >imagined that to be some sort of company design. Are you saying
> > > >that
> > what
> > > >she's seeing is the Jaws main interface and its menus? it just
> > > >seems
> > fair
> > > >to explain that this isn't decorative, but the basic interface of
> > > >the program, and *then* to explain that the program can be run
> > > >like her
> other
> > > >applications, so that it's always available the way Word is, or
> > > >made
to
> > run
> > > >in the system tray, where it won't be seen unless called up from
> > > >the
> > system
> > > >tray or by pressing Insert J.
> > > >
> > > >Now, if a logo like a shark is what's on the screen, that's a
different
> > > >matter, of course...
> > > >loo or that was
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:14 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi Judith
> > > >
> > > >Ok, do the following to get rid of the JAWS window on the screen,
> > > >if
> you
> > > >haven't figured this out already on your own doing some
> > > >searching. go to your JAWS window and go to options, and then
> > > >basics... when you press enter here, you'll get a dialogue box
> > > >with a few
> > checkboxes.
> > > >the one you want to check is, run JAWS from system tray. Check
> > > >this
> box.
> > > >then go through the options and set things how you want them. If
you're
> > > >unsure of what an item in the list is, press insert plus f1 and
you'll
> > hear
> > > >a description of the current item and what it does. then press
> > > >ok.
> > > >
> > > >Ok, now you should be bak at your regular JAWS window again. To
> > > >get
> JAWS
> > > >to run in your system tray which will keep the JAWS window off
> > > >the
> screen
> > > >but still running, you'll need to unload JAWS with insert plus f4
> > > >and
> > then
> > > >restart JAWS. By default, JAWS puts a desktop icon for itselfon
> > > >your desktop, so before you hit alt plus f4 to restart, press
> > > >windows key
> plus
> > m
> > > >and then press j until you hear JAWS 7.0
> > > >Ok, now do your insert plus f4 to lose JAWS and then press ok to
close
> > > >it. Now if you're focused on the desktop icon for JAWS 7, which
> > > >you
> > should
> > > >be, just wait a few seconds, and then press enter. In a few
> > > >seconds,
> JAWS
> > > >should load up again, and then you should be able to access
everything
> in
> > > >your JAWS menu a little easier with insert j. it'll pop up your
> different
> > > >JAWS menu items in a context menu.
> > > >
> > > >Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 11:12 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > > >Well, For the most part it is working. However, I keep getting
> > > > >the
> > jaws
> > > > >logo up on the screen. Is there a way to avoid this?
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:16 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > That's what I had read--there is a separate version for
> > > > > > Windows
> 98.
> > As
> > > > > > I
> > > > >have said, I should have gone to the web site to verify this
> > > > >first. Thanks for that, Chris.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hi
> > > > > > There is *most definitely* a version of JAWS 7 for windows
> > > > > > 98.
In
> > > > > > fact
> > > > > > with the CD Judith has, the proper version is installed
> > > > > > based on
> the
> > > > > > operating system being used.
> > > > > > So she wouldn't need to ditch the cd and re-download it at
> > > > > > all,
> the
> > cd
> > > > >just
> > > > > > installs the proper version. nice!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 10:31 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that
version
> 7
> > > > > > >was
> > > > > > >NOT meant for Windows 98.
> > > > > > >You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on
> > > > > > >your
> system
> > > > > > >though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on
> > > > > > >that.
> > Also,
> > > > > > >Version 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should
really
> > know
> > > > > > >a
> > > > > > >little more about your system before giving a definitive
answer.
> > > > > > >I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6 and
control
> > alt
> > > > > > >j
> > > > >for
> > > > > > >versions 5, 6 and 7 respectively.
> > > > > > >I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not
> > > > > > >experienced
> many
> > > > > > >of
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >problems others have spoken of.
> > > > > > >I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically
> > > > > > >not recommended for Windows 98.
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I just went to the FS website and read of the new features.
> Quite
> > > > >honestly,
> > > > > > >the spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow
> > > > > > >me to collect material on the clipboard and paste it all
> > > > > > >when I was ready.
The
> > > > > > >other
> > > > >new
> > > > > > >feature that allows for easier menu reading has never been
> > > > > > >a
> > problem
> > > > > > >for
> > > > >me.
> > > > > > >One thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working on
> windows
> > > > > > >98.
> > > > > > >Would this pose a problem if I decided to install the
> > > > > > >program? Thanks, Judith
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at
> > > > > > > > listing
> the
> > > > > > > > improvements than any of us could be.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx Web
> > > > > > > > Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > > > >http://www.ogts.net
> > > > > > > > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
http://www.cornergas.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7? So
> > > > > > > > > far
> its
> > 2
> > > > >against
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > 1 for. Still thinking on it. Judith
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Guys,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Really, now. One doesn't have to mutually exclude
> > > > > > > > >> the
> other?
> > > > > > > > >> I
> > > > >think
> > > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > >> been noted countless times, you can upgrade but if
> > > > > > > > >> there
> are
> > > > > > > > >> areas
> > > > > > >where
> > > > > > > > >> things may not work right, it isn't a criminal
> > > > > > > > >> offense to
> > keep
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >older
> > > > > > > > >> version there as a fall-back.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and
> > > > > > > > >> I've
> not
> > > > > > >encountered
> > > > > > > > >> many of the problems that others have. Obviously,
> > > > > > > > >> there
> are
> > > > > > >differences
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >> system performance due to different display adapters,
> > installed
> > > > > > >drivers,
> > > > > > > > >> installed software and so forth. But, I find that
> > > > > > > > >> JFW 7 performs
> > > > > > >better
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >> certain web pages and with certain forms; and other
> additions
> > > > > > > > >> such
> > > > >as
> > > > > > > > >> improved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtual
> > clipboard
> > > > > > >feature,
> > > > > > > > >> firefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have
> > > > > > > > >> the fallback
> > > > > > >ability
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> your version of choice.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Steve
> > > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM
> > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Heya Judith,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after
> > > > > > > > >> many
> > > > >frustrations
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >> 7
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> cheers,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Jim from Oz
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >> From: Judith Bron
> > > > > > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM
> > > > > > > > >> Subject: jaws 7
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in
> > > > > > > > >> the
> mail.
> > > > > > > > >> As
> > > > > > > > >> I
> > > > > > > > > alluded
> > > > > > > > >> to earlier I haven't been following all the
> > > > > > > > >> complaints
> about
> > > > > > > > >> this
> > > > > > >newest
> > > > > > > > >> version because I didn't have it and was content with
> > > > > > > > >> my
> jaws
> > > > > > > > >> 5.1.
> > > > > > >Should
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >> install the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1? Is
> > > > > > > > >> it as
> > easy
> > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > >use
> > > > > > >as
> > > > > > > > >> 5.1? Thanks, Judith
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > >
> >
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> > > --
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date:
> 11/8/2005
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date:
> 11/8/2005
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> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date:
11/8/2005
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date:
11/8/2005
> >
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> or
the
> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
> contact
the
> list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date:
> 11/8/2005
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date:
> 11/8/2005
>
> --
> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To
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>
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the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather
contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/166 - Release Date: 11/10/2005
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